10-23-2012, 10:25 PM | #23 |
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I like the looks, not a fan of the FWD setup, but bring it to the US in an AWD variant and you have a winnar!
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10-23-2012, 10:51 PM | #24 | ||
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That being said, the mini cooper s out handles all the above cars on a fwd platform. It is also faster than the z3 and 325xi. Don't believe me? Go pick flip through a couple different car magazines to confirm it. You can say this and that about turning radius and whatnot but at the end of the day, the mini can put down decent numbers on a fwd platform. If you cant wrap your mind around a fwd 1 series, go buy a 2 series. |
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10-24-2012, 01:17 AM | #25 |
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Because I've been a loyal BMW owner since 1994 and wish they'd get their out of asses and make ultimate driving machines. They are quickly becoming the ultimate family and commuter vehicle. Let VW have that crown and stay true to course.
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10-24-2012, 03:16 AM | #26 |
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Its a sign of the times guys
BMW has been forced into this kind of marketing, the same as other car makers. Merc now has a FWD 'AMG' , Audi has its S and RS VW has R BMW like Audi is more specific to only building cars, so they have to look at the volumes in each market segments and therefore use their 'M Sport' as a tool for the 'performance' style in their models to generate more sales thought the appeal of the M. Where it falls down now is that they are not totally differentiating them. If BMW only did 'M Sport' in each model where it only used the highest performance motor in that engine range (4pot) (6pot) along with a M sport body and interior package it would be accepted, as a sub version of the M'number' and it would be seen as a seperate model variant. The problem now is that you can get M on everything. Perhaps BMW should have a true 'M' and create a "M Sport" badge for these variants. All these BMWs now have more electronic gismos than you can count, so perhaps it should be a 'Q' badge |
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It is lightweight (carbon fibre), has RWD, 28" wheels, immediate pedal response and manual gears. |
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10-24-2012, 04:37 AM | #28 | |
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10-24-2012, 06:29 AM | #30 | |
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RWD - CHECK! Superb throttle response - CHECK! Superb road feel, and no electronic interference - CHECK! Built as a lightweight performance ride - CHECK! Manual gears - CHECK! Low driving position - CHECK! ///M badge approved bike! |
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10-24-2012, 04:11 PM | #32 | |
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That's the rational way of looking at it. But to people who have an emotional bond to BMW and their cars, building FWD cars is like cheating on your partner/forgetting your own principles. RWD cars have perfect proportions and they are immediately recognized as sporty driving machines. A bunch of crap on wheels like the 1GT will not be any different from the cheap Kias and Audis. |
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10-25-2012, 11:50 AM | #33 |
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WTF BMW? BMW needs to stop putting ///M badges on all these wimpy people haulers. Discussions about FWD, RWD, AWD are not terribly relevant in this context, though I agree that FWD sucks in every objective sense. Make as many FWD crap-mobiles as you want, just keep the ///M off them!
The ///M badge doesn't belong on these cars! Stop being like Audi with their stupid S-line crap. It just dilutes the ///M brand; non-enthusiasts don't know or care what an ///M badge means anyway, so I doubt it will help sell cars to these neophytes. It just makes owners of real ///M cars feel like their cars are less special. One of the main reasons I got rid of my 335 was that I was tired of driving such a common car that looked exactly the same as a car $20k cheaper. Why would we bother buying an ///M if it loses its exclusivity (ignoring driving characteristics)? If I only cared about having a fast car, I would have bought a Mustang or some other domestic bucket. Flame me if you want, but (relative) exclusivity is a big selling point on the ///M cars. You don't see a Nissan Altima-R; just saying...
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10-26-2012, 08:50 AM | #34 |
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Stupid, they already have mini for this type of things, but then they make minis larger and BMW smaller.
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10-29-2012, 05:35 PM | #37 |
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BMW are just a German Hyundai. All these BS sports models make a mockery of the image they've worked so hard to build. In 10 years we will the result of this blatant money grab.
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