12-03-2013, 08:27 AM | #1 |
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EU wants to maximise speed limit to 115kph
http://rt.com/news/eu-compulsory-speed-limiters-554/
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12-03-2013, 10:51 AM | #3 |
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Well, that would make it simple for car makers. Only 2 engines for all models. A 114d and 114i. They reach 115kmh good enough. Then they can put that engine in everything from the 1 series trough the 7 series and M-cars.
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12-03-2013, 04:06 PM | #5 |
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the vast majority of fatalities in the UK occur at speeds below 115kph.
many are at 40-50mph on roads that are appropriate for 30. This will solve little except make overtaking dangerous if the car beside you decides they don't want you overtaking them
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Exactly. There has also been countless studies that revealed that increased speed limits reduced road carnage..
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12-04-2013, 03:02 AM | #8 | |
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It has to be said that there are very few fatalities on our best roads with highest speed limits, though. Today I drove a rental car at around 150 km/h on the German Autobahn. I saw some Audi lights coming up very fast from behind, and went into the right lane to let it pass. When it came flying past me, I noticed an F20 M-Sport behind it, wanting to pass the Audi! |
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12-04-2013, 03:45 AM | #9 | |
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And, yes, ten years ago, there were more road fatalities. Nearly everywhere (but excluding those emerging middle class economies with immature driving capabilities). But what, exactly, was the correlative causal factor? Was it speed? (But cars, generally, were slower then) Was it the active safety features of the cars of the day? (Much less than the cars of today) Was it the passive safety features? (again, there were far fewer). Or perhaps road design? Alcohol and drug influence was not as well enforced, perhaps? Or drivers were less aware of the consequence? (Considerable effort has been made on all these in the last ten years). Lies, damned lies, and statistics! Hence the importance of examining the data with a critical eye to discover true cause and effect. |
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12-04-2013, 04:02 AM | #10 |
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It is also interesting to see that summer nights is the most dangerous time out on the roads. Lots of young people speeding around with limited experience as drivers. In the winter, with slippery roads, people drive slower, and the traffic is safer.
I agree that there are other factors at play here, but it seems to be rather safe to assume that lower speeds will reduce the amount of fatalities. It also reduces the energy spent, so it is good for the environment. I still feel that it is the wrong way to go to technically limit the cars. |
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12-04-2013, 05:26 AM | #11 |
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In my country it's a problem of infrastructure: respecting the speed limits will elongate to much the time to cover the distances: not enough motorways.
On the other hand I've seen in this morning on news a huge car accident in Belgium on a motorway, more than 100 cars were involved. I'm not sure about the causes... So speeding it's a factor, but not the main one. Also I'm sure that this speed limitation can't be put in practice as the automotive industry will be destroyed Last edited by vladberca; 12-04-2013 at 03:03 PM.. |
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12-04-2013, 10:23 AM | #12 |
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Thing is you can limit motorway speeds, make 20mph zones outside schools and in town centres. Even put speed cameras up on every road!
However, it will never address the biggest issue of them all! The fact that 90% of drivers should not be allowed on the road on the first place. And that goes to the stupid w@nk3r ( and I hate to swear, it's the lowest form of communicating, but needs must!) who very nearly took out 5 cars in front of me on the M25 in his van! Such an unnecessary way to drive! And if by chance van man on the M25 near junction 17 at about 4pm in a grey VW T 150 you are a member of this forum you need a flaming slap! I will put soap box away now. |
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12-04-2013, 11:43 AM | #14 |
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Actually I dont think limited cars will be on the roads any time soon. As @vladberca said, it would ruin the car industry. Second, the governments everywhere are counting too much on all the money coming in from speeding people. I just think its big business for them, as @ttimbo already mentioned.
@vladberca, the accident here in Belgium yesterday was due to very severe mist and very localised. To give you an idea, I work in aviation and the pilot of my incoming plane could clearly see town but could'nt make out the airfield wich is located only 1,5 Km away! They had to evade to another airport..
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By comparison, 10 years ago, I owned a Mazda RX-8 (ok, no econocar) and fuel consumption while I owned it averaged 12.2L/100k (over 40,000k), with both cars driven more or less the same way, same trips. |
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12-05-2013, 07:38 PM | #17 |
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In Victoria (Australia) they have this system already. With a 110km/h limit, a 3km/h tolerance, and hidden speed cameras scattered about, all drivers apply their brakes before 115km/h.
This leads to frustration, boredom, and potentially dangerous bunching and tailgating. The EU would be best advised not to go there. Ovekvam - I suppose in Norway, a lot of your roads and conditions mean that a 110km/h would be appropriate. That said, when I was there a couple of years back, I frequently cruised at upwards of 140km/h on the smaller main roads and rarely saw any traffic policemen.
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You lose licence if you go 50kph above the limit in city and out of the city (where there is no highways - limit 90kph) and pay 1200€ (if we pay in 8 days we always get 50% discount ), no jail. Actually you can't lose licence by one-time speeding on highway.. if you go more than 60kph above limit (limit is mostly 130kph) you "just" pay 1200€ and get 9 points (at 18 you're out ) But if you're unexperienced driver (under the age of 21 or having licence for just 2 years), you lose licence already by going 30kph above limit in city.. |
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12-09-2013, 11:58 PM | #21 |
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In NSW (Australia) we have an automatic suspension at 30km/h over, but on Motorways if you exceed 130km/h (20km/h over) you can lose your licence.
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12-10-2013, 03:37 AM | #22 |
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Just a point of clarification: it's not automatic, it's discretionary if handled by Roads and Maritime Services, but mandatory if you are convicted by a Court. Despite this, the advice for these higher speed transgressions is to throw yourself before the court and seek mercy, rather than have the matter dealt with by RMS. I dunno
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