Geneva 2015: BMW 1 Series LCI Update

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 03-03-2015, 06:57 PM

M Sport

SF Dede · 03-03-2015, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

M Sport

I really wish this were available in the US. Anybody interested in trying to change BMWNA's mind? If Audi fans can do it for the A3 Sportback, and BMW fans did it for the X1, maybe we can do it for this?

Manbnda · 03-03-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

I agree. There is a feeling that high end hatches will not sell well in the US, but the market seems to be changing.

Maybe you can buy these cars here in Mex, and take them home with you in US.

Premium hatchbacks sell here like pancakes, funny they are not available in the US.

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 03-03-2015, 09:17 PM

I'd definitely consider an M135 M Sport if it was available. Maybe that's the problem... I'm a 335 owner.

SF Dede · 03-03-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Manbnda

Maybe you can buy these cars here in Mex, and take them home with you in US.

Premium hatchbacks sell here like pancakes, funny they are not available in the US.

I wish it were that easy. It is very difficult to import non-compliant, meaning not government approved, vehicles to the US.

flinchy · 03-04-2015, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

They can't make the 1 look like the 2er. Otherwise they'd dilute the 2er if they had.

how would it be 'diluted'

the 1 and 2 are the same cars really, like the old 1 hatch+coupe.. that DID have the same front end (well, 99% the same)

MikeRR · 03-04-2015, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven1077

I don't know why they keep saying the M135i has more power than before, it's had 326HP for ages, in fact at one point they said it has 332hp

The M135i had 320hp, the M235i had 326hp - now the M135i also gets the 326hp, thats all.

Skeiz · 03-04-2015, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRR

The M135i had 320hp, the M235i had 326hp - now the M135i also gets the 326hp, thats all.

I believe every M135i produced after 07/2013 has 326hp, because BMW increased the size of the downpipe from 3,5" to 4".

They just never really communicated it.

Pure · 03-04-2015, 05:27 AM

What are you waiting BMW to sell this car in the US?
It would be nice one:

120i : 28-31k
125i : 31-36k
M135: 39-41k

For people who can not pay more than 31k for BMW a 120i model this would be a good start for them.

MikeRR · 03-04-2015, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeiz

I believe every M135i produced after 07/2013 has 326hp, because BMW increased the size of the downpipe from 3,5" to 4".

They just never really communicated it.

At least for Switzerland I can confirm that all pre LCI are 320hp (on paper)

ORIGIN M. · 03-04-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

They can't make the 1 look like the 2er. Otherwise they'd dilute the 2er if they had.

how would it be 'diluted'

the 1 and 2 are the same cars really, like the old 1 hatch+coupe.. that DID have the same front end (well, 99% the same)

Because the 2er is the new car. The 1 series and the 2 series cannot look the same or it would devalue the 2er.

Diver · 03-04-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Manbnda

Maybe you can buy these cars here in Mex, and take them home with you in US.

Premium hatchbacks sell here like pancakes, funny they are not available in the US.

I ate a lot of pancakes last week in Hawaii, but my rented Fusion never turned into a premium hatch???

Steven1077 · 03-04-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRR

At least for Switzerland I can confirm that all pre LCI are 320hp (on paper)

They started using the electronic waste gate and bigger pipe from the M235 in the M135i some time ago so it's had at least 326 hp for a while, you can ignore what they say on paper

LuisBoston · 03-04-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

I agree. There is a feeling that high end hatches will not sell well in the US, but the market seems to be changing.

My deposit would be at my dealer if BMW sold these here. In major US cities, BMW would sell a ton of these. Americans are not against high-end small cars.

I think BMW is afraid it would cannibalize Mini sales, but I am proof it will not. I do not want a Mini, I want a BMW 1-series hatch with a stick.

Transfer · 03-04-2015, 05:27 PM

I'm still waiting for a 5 or 6 cylinder AWD hatch with 300-350HP to hit the states. I might be waiting a very long time. The Mk7 Golf R is the closest thing right now.

SF Dede · 03-04-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LuisSF

My deposit would be at my dealer if BMW sold these here. In major US cities, BMW would sell a ton of these. Americans are not against high-end small cars.

I think BMW is afraid it would cannibalize Mini sales, but I am proof it will not. I do not want a Mini, I want a BMW 1-series hatch with a stick.

Could not agree with you more. How should we get other like minded buyers together and communicate this to BMWNA? Would love to change their mind. I'm ready to put money down to order one.

I also love MINIs. I've owned an 02 MCS and it was a great car. I own a E90 328 sedan now. But a MINI won't meet my needs this time around. Neither will a current 3 series (too big) and I don't want an X1. Prefer a BMW and a 1 series RWD hatch. I'll get FWD hatch if the 1 series isn't available but it won't be a MINI. So that means I go to a competitor and BMW looses me as a customer.

PerthM135i · 03-06-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SF Dede

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

M Sport

I really wish this were available in the US. Anybody interested in trying to change BMWNA's mind? If Audi fans can do it for the A3 Sportback, and BMW fans did it for the X1, maybe we can do it for this?

side note, i just got a JB4 from Burger motorsports in the good ol US of A, should take my m135i to around 420 give or take. yes north america is missing out big time. the car feels like two different cars at the flick of a switch. can you not import one from Germany??

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 03-06-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PerthM135i

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Originally Posted by SF Dede

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

M Sport

I really wish this were available in the US. Anybody interested in trying to change BMWNA's mind? If Audi fans can do it for the A3 Sportback, and BMW fans did it for the X1, maybe we can do it for this?

side note, i just got a JB4 from Burger motorsports in the good ol US of A, should take my m135i to around 420 give or take. yes north america is missing out big time. the car feels like two different cars at the flick of a switch. can you not import one from Germany??

Our current Presidential administration is cracking down on imported vehicles that aren't classics.

ovekvam · 03-06-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Our current Presidential administration is cracking down on imported vehicles that aren't classics.

It is a future classic!

SF Dede · 03-06-2015, 07:53 PM

So I ask to all the fans that want to buy one in the US, what do we do about it? We've got to get together and make ourselves heard! We can't change their mind if we don't try!

Robin_NL · 03-07-2015, 03:13 AM

Looks much better than before.
Anyway I wanted to trade in my 335i for a M135i back in '12 but because of the 'ugliness' so to speak I decided to go for a 1M. Not a bad decision.

One of my mates got ugly duckling M135i 5 door in white. Fantastic car except the looks. Some footage of a few friends of mine testing them both and a 130i a few years ago.

No subtitling sorry, but pics speak more than words.

Cheers
Robin

petay135 · 03-07-2015, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Looks much better than before.
Anyway I wanted to trade in my 335i for a M135i back in '12 but because of the 'ugliness' so to speak I decided to go for a 1M. Not a bad decision.

One of my mates got ugly duckling M135i 5 door in white. Fantastic car except the looks. Some footage of a few friends of mine testing them both and a 130i a few years ago.

No subtitling sorry, but pics speak more than words.

Cheers
Robin

Yep those pre LCI's sure are disgustingly ugly, it's amazing they have managed to sell any

Why don't you open your eyes and stop regurgitating tired dross re the styling

Surprised they let these three monstrosities out at the same time without a public health warning

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Robin_NL S0THPAW 8715 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Looks much better than before. Anyway I wanted to trade in my 335i for a M135i back in '12 but because of the 'ugliness' so to speak I decided to go for a 1M. Not a bad decision. One of my mates got ugly duckling M135i 5 door in white. Fantastic car except the looks. Some footage of a few friends of mine testing them both and a 130i a few years ago. No subtitling sorry, but pics speak more than words. Cheers Robin Last edited by Robin_NL; 03-07-2015 at 03:38 AM..
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