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      11-07-2012, 12:43 PM   #1
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What the M135i reminds me of...

My old 2002 Mercedes Benz AMG C32!

Any other cars?
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      11-07-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
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Yes, the C32AMG also crossed my mind since very comparable specs. I admired the car then because of the massive torque over the rpm band it delivered.

Why not the A4 RS (V6 bi-turbo) of the same period then: 380hp and 440Nm. Very comparable performance figures, efficiency was about 30 to 40% down in 1998 though.

Well both the C as the A4 costed about double what the M135i lays you back these days (inflation corrected of course). And running cost where about 3 times higher.

Man, you'd have to love modern technology! Serious power has (almost) become a commodity...
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      11-10-2012, 12:04 AM   #3
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Yes, the C32AMG also crossed my mind since very comparable specs. I admired the car then because of the massive torque over the rpm band it delivered.

Why not the A4 RS (V6 bi-turbo) of the same period then: 380hp and 440Nm. Very comparable performance figures, efficiency was about 30 to 40% down in 1998 though.

Well both the C as the A4 costed about double what the M135i lays you back these days (inflation corrected of course). And running cost where about 3 times higher.

Man, you'd have to love modern technology! Serious power has (almost) become a commodity...
One thing that Quattro Audis have that nobody else can replicate is traction, and no matter what other manufacturers use, they can't touch the Audi's traction in the wet. One thing that I find the M135i is similar to Mercedes is, constant yellow flashing lights on the dash.
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      11-10-2012, 02:59 AM   #4
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One thing that Quattro Audis have that nobody else can replicate is traction, and no matter what other manufacturers use, they can't touch the Audi's traction in the wet. One thing that I find the M135i is similar to Mercedes is, constant yellow flashing lights on the dash.
So you think quattro has significantly better traction than xDrive? That is not my experience.
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      11-10-2012, 06:12 AM   #5
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One thing that Quattro Audis have that nobody else can replicate is traction, and no matter what other manufacturers use, they can't touch the Audi's traction in the wet. One thing that I find the M135i is similar to Mercedes is, constant yellow flashing lights on the dash.
Quattro is AWD

C32 wasn't available in AWD.

M135i - Did you drive the AWD version? Most people get the RWD instead.

You have to compare like with like.
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      11-10-2012, 06:20 AM   #6
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Quattro is AWD

C32 wasn't available in AWD.

M135i - Did you drive the AWD version? Most people get the RWD instead.

You have to compare like with like.
You can select 2WD or AWD on both Audis and BMWs. I have driven xDrive, but not the M135i.

BMW sells more AWD cars than Audi.
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You can select 2WD or AWD on both Audis and BMWs. I have driven xDrive, but not the M135i.
Can you even get xDrive on M135i? If it does, I think I might opt for this option. The traction might be too little on that tiny rear tires, if it's RWD, I prefer wider rubbers on the rear (staggered setup).
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      11-10-2012, 06:55 AM   #8
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Can you even get xDrive on M135i?
Yes.

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if it's RWD, I prefer wider rubbers on the rear (staggered setup).
I prefer a square setup with the same size in all corners, since I am quite comfortable with letting the rear wheels to their fair share of steering! :-)
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      11-13-2012, 01:42 PM   #9
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I don't think that M135i is available with x-drive in UK due to RHD
I want to see a comparative between an x-drive M135i vs new S3: so we'll see which car has a better awd system
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