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      05-19-2016, 02:55 PM   #1
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Dragtimes Video - McLaren 650s vs Tesla Model X

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      05-19-2016, 03:09 PM   #2
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The Tesla P90D is incredibly fast off the line...which means that if the Tesla is ludicrous speed, the McLaren is hyper speed.
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      05-19-2016, 03:28 PM   #3
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Should start the run with a 70 roll and see what happens
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      05-19-2016, 03:47 PM   #4
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      05-19-2016, 04:56 PM   #5
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Has there ever been a track video of any Tesla that wasn't just straight line acceleration? Seems like it and muscle cars are sometimes the same (both only do really well going straight) and at the same time the opposite (powertrain and fuel burned).
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Lol. That's what it should be. Every car vs tesla video I see, the tesla driver hits the light perfect and the gas driver hesitates half a second. Z06, gtr, etc. It happened in the first run of the McLaren. The later runs were the what should happen every time with equal drivers.
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Teslas lack of transmission and operating an induction motor deep into field weakening means torque at high speeds sucks. That's why the P90s are so quick off the line but aren't very potent once they are at freeway speeds.

Nonetheless it's pretty impressive when you think of the fact that the P90 is a people mover and the 650s is a no holds barred supercar (that also costs much more).
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I still don't know why they don't do some form of second higher gearing to increase range and top end performance as well as motor life.
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I still don't know why they don't do some form of second higher gearing to increase range and top end performance as well as motor life.
Cost (manufacturing and warranty) and packaging. No transmission simplifies things greatly. While I'm sure they wish they had better high speed performance they probably think it's good enough, and that most normal consumers hardly notice (how often do most normal people go WOT for an extended period of time starting at freeway speeds?)
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You'd have to do 4, but not a big clunker, just some way to increase the gearing. If someone designed one it would be bucks. And benefits for everyday drivers would be motor longevity and higher top end acceleration.
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Should start the run with a 70 roll and see what happens
Then they should seat 4 passengers in each car and see what happens.
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      05-20-2016, 03:51 AM   #12
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As far as gearing goes, more than one speed in an electric car means you didn't put in a powerful enough motor for the task at hand. Gears are dumb.
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As far as gearing goes, more than one speed in an electric car means you didn't put in a powerful enough motor for the task at hand. Gears are dumb.
Not getting this. I was thinking if you're motor is at high rpms, it's making less torque, using more energy, and burning out faster. Is this incorrect?
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I'll ask a dumb question but isn't this a 760 hp car that got its ass reeled in about an 1/8th of a mile?

There are always 2 ways to look at things lol.
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I'll ask a dumb question but isn't this a 760 hp car that got its ass reeled in about an 1/8th of a mile?

There are always 2 ways to look at things lol.
Yes, exactly. It's a $120k car that will get its ass handed to it by a Mustang GT or most sport luxury sedans pretty much everywhere but at a stoplight.
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Yeah that jump should be an insurmountable lead
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Yeah that jump should be an insurmountable lead
For what distance?
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The one we watched we are talking about 1/4 mile
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I'll ask a dumb question but isn't this a 760 hp car that got its ass reeled in about an 1/8th of a mile?

There are always 2 ways to look at things lol.
Yeah perspective always varies. Mine is that this 5000+lb family hauler, at the very least, is competitive with some serious machinery from a dig. Say what you will about "one trick pony," but that's a pretty damn good trick. Could fit my twins giant stroller in there lol
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The one we watched we are talking about 1/4 mile
Unless it's at the track, 1/4 mile doesn't matter. Since 99.9% of the time it's on the street, it's a relevant stat 0.1% of the time. Why not go to a 1/8 mile track. Then it's even more unbeatable.
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If you say so.
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      05-21-2016, 01:09 AM   #22
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Not getting this. I was thinking if you're motor is at high rpms, it's making less torque, using more energy, and burning out faster. Is this incorrect?
You size / spec the motor so it does whatever top speed you need while turning reasonable RPM and smokes the tires from go. See the latest Koenigsegg...it has only one speed. There is a combustion engine in addition to the electric because batteries can't store enough energy yet for a car with that much power to have any kind of range whatsoever, and guess what it can do with 1 gear?

SMOKE THE TIRES UP TO PAST 300 KPH....yes, you heard me right.
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