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      01-22-2016, 07:33 PM   #1
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116i Vs 220i

I have both a 2015 116i M Sport and a 2015 220i M Sport I have to say I have better fun in the 116i. The 116i engine is a lot more lively and it's cornering is better. I had a drive of a new MX5 1.6 and I would put the 116i in the same camp as the MX5 lively and fun to drive.

I have not driven BMW's 2016 116i 3 cylinder and if it's as good as the 4 cylinder I'll replace my 116i at the end of production. There are usually some good run out prices then. I defiantly do not want a front wheel drive.

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      01-28-2016, 12:13 PM   #2
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With the LCI release you have to buy the 118i to be on par with the pre LCI 116i..
What do you hate in the 220i, especially being an M Sport too? The power is significantly higher than in the 116i..
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      01-30-2016, 03:22 AM   #3
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With the LCI release you have to buy the 118i to be on par with the pre LCI 116i..
What do you hate in the 220i, especially being an M Sport too? The power is significantly higher than in the 116i..
I never said I hate the 220i I enjoyed driving it today it's just not the same fun to drive as the 116i. During the week I have both to drive but always jump into the 116i. I do know I'm starting to dislike stop start and turn it off. I wish I could have both cars default to sport and no stop start when I start the cars.

I've been thinking why I like the 116 and it's because I don't have to be going super fast to make the engine work and this is how the new Mazda MX5 works.
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      01-30-2016, 06:21 AM   #4
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I never said I hate the 220i I enjoyed driving it today it's just not the same fun to drive as the 116i. During the week I have both to drive but always jump into the 116i. I do know I'm starting to dislike stop start and turn it off. I wish I could have both cars default to sport and no stop start when I start the cars.

I've been thinking why I like the 116 and it's because I don't have to be going super fast to make the engine work and this is how the new Mazda MX5 works.
It's possible by coding.
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It's possible by coding.
We do not have the people who can do coding as we are only a small country. BMW sold 1954 units for 2015 which is high for 4 million people.
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DIY...you need the correct cable, and then you'll find heaps of instructions around this and other forums
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I found today the 220i has more turbo lag when starting from the lights in Sport Mode. It's terrible in Comfort Mode. The 116i is away without any turbo lag well a lot less than the 220i
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I found today the 220i has more turbo lag when starting from the lights in Sport Mode. It's terrible in Comfort Mode. The 116i is away without any turbo lag well a lot less than the 220i
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...gehIWXC8#t=126
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Love it

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I meet Jeremy in Auckland.
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I meet Jeremy in Auckland.
So this is where he ran to hide from BBC. Doesn't he strike in the face everyone he meets, or are you an uneasy target to hit? I guess I see why The Stig wore that helmet all the time now.
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[QUOTE=Kiwi;19303857I do know I'm starting to dislike stop start and turn it off. I wish I could have both cars default to sport and no stop start when I start the cars.[/QUOTE]

You can code "start and stop" in DIY, ask for on 2addicts.

Your dealer could also add OMSA option for Free :
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[1773] OMSA_WITHOUT_ENGINE_START_STOP

For the mode, it's easy to code Eco-Pro as default but nobody knows how to declare Sport by default.
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I had the dealers new demo m135i auto yesterday as I had a flat tire on my 116i.

I was a little disappointed as the ride was harsh on our rough New Zealand roads. It's not BMW's fault but I'll stay with my 116i M Sport and 220i M Sport.

I also thought the extra money to buy the 135i is over the top but that's BMW New Zealand pricing.

I was impressed with the fuel economy as it was the same as my 116i when I dropped the car back. I did reset the 135 as it was showing 12.5L but after the reset and driving all day without thrashing the 135 I had 7.8L. My 116i is 7.4L which is around 2 months of quick driving.
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You can code "start and stop" in DIY, ask for on 2addicts.

Your dealer could also add OMSA option for Free :
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[1773] OMSA_WITHOUT_ENGINE_START_STOP

For the mode, it's easy to code Eco-Pro as default but nobody knows how to declare Sport by default.

Thanks
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I had the dealers new demo m135i auto yesterday as I had a flat tire on my 116i.

I was a little disappointed as the ride was harsh on our rough New Zealand roads. It's not BMW's fault but I'll stay with my 116i M Sport and 220i M Sport.

I also thought the extra money to buy the 135i is over the top but that's BMW New Zealand pricing.

I was impressed with the fuel economy as it was the same as my 116i when I dropped the car back. I did reset the 135 as it was showing 12.5L but after the reset and driving all day without thrashing the 135 I had 7.8L. My 116i is 7.4L which is around 2 months of quick driving.
Having driven around all of both island in 1999/2000 in a fairly cheap Honda Accord, I'd LOVE to do it again in my M135i!
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Having driven around all of both island in 1999/2000 in a fairly cheap Honda Accord, I'd LOVE to do it again in my M135i!
You wouldn't last long as doing 40ks over any speed limit your car and licence is gone for 28 days if the Police catch you. I've found I'm better off in my 116i and enjoying using it's gears at a lower speed this way I keep my licence. Our traffic fines though is under half Australia's and we lose no points from speed cameras.

My 116i would be as fast as a 2000 M3 now
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I had the dealers new demo m135i auto yesterday as I had a flat tire on my 116i.

I was a little disappointed as the ride was harsh on our rough New Zealand roads. It's not BMW's fault but I'll stay with my 116i M Sport and 220i M Sport.
How can it be so? Do you mean you choose the "sporty granny" regular suspension M Sport? I really don't think M135i suspension differs much from the M Sport suspension.

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I was impressed with the fuel economy as it was the same as my 116i when I dropped the car back. I did reset the 135 as it was showing 12.5L but after the reset and driving all day without thrashing the 135 I had 7.8L. My 116i is 7.4L which is around 2 months of quick driving.
This could give an unusual meaning to the "stop start" disabling request: some hate the "stop", others - the "start"!

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You wouldn't last long as doing 40ks over any speed limit your car and licence is gone for 28 days if the Police catch you.
It's not particularly nice towards the other people who might need and even own the car. I like the New Zealand notion of a "month" though. "Flying high" could be a solution: Police Drive By.
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You wouldn't last long as doing 40ks over any speed limit your car and licence is gone for 28 days if the Police catch you. I've found I'm better off in my 116i and enjoying using it's gears at a lower speed this way I keep my licence. Our traffic fines though is under half Australia's and we lose no points from speed cameras.

My 116i would be as fast as a 2000 M3 now
In NSW 30km/h over (or over 130 on a 110km/h road) is automatic licence suspension for 6 months minimum.

Then again, we take the cake with $415 fines for cyclists not wearing a helmet.
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In NSW 30km/h over (or over 130 on a 110km/h road) is automatic licence suspension for 6 months minimum.

Then again, we take the cake with $415 fines for cyclists not wearing a helmet.

I cant believe how Australia is being run to much by their Police. We are across the ditch often to Australia and always drive like a nanny while I'm there.

I did look once at moving over but Australia is too expensive and too hot as well too many Australians��

We do send our rubbish across so enjoy our rejects.

It only cost us $30 if we are speeding within 10ks over the posted speed limit and a red light drive through is $150.

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