[JustChris]

Sorry for the dumb question, for the 3 door model are the windows frameless like the 4series, 6 series etc?

Thanks!


Edit@-
Aha at last found some F21pics with the door open and yes frameless, neat.

[matthewcornish]

Yes, the F21 windows are frameless

[Math]

Yes they are and one of the main reasons I chose a f21

[matthewcornish]

Originally Posted by Math

Yes they are and one of the main reasons I chose a f21

It's very cool

also really handy if you're stuck in a tight space getting out of or into the car... if someone parks too close to you wind the window down (with the key thob) and it's loads easier to get in then.

[JustChris]

Yes did this a few times in a coupe loaner, the doors sure are longer on any coupe!

Really compelling proposition the F21 M135i, its literally 1/2 the price of the spec F82 I'd want, hmmmmm.

[ovekvam]

The frameless door have traditionally caused quite a bit of trouble in winter conditions, when the window gets frozen stuck, causing the motor to eventually fail.

[JustChris]

Thanks ovekvam, I had heard of this, for those in the UK is this a big problem, a bit of careful defrosting helps on our coldest days?

[Math]

Originally Posted by ovekvam

The frameless door have traditionally caused quite a bit of trouble in winter conditions, when the window gets frozen stuck, causing the motor to eventually fail.

Would'nt you be able to counter that by lightly applying vaseline on the rubber?
I've never had problems yet so far, of course its not exactly been cold here.

[Bob UK]

Seen a few issues reported where the window drops and fails to return when the door is closed, not always cold associated.

Give me a frame unless it's a convertible or a supercar.