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      09-21-2014, 12:56 PM   #1
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Arrow F20 1.16 Upgrade Help

Hello everybody,

I purchased my F20 1.16 5 days ago.

When i checked the available mods (AC, Hartge etc and box installations), i have seen that no matter what you throw on the car, the 0-100 and top speed does not fall into 1.18i territory (AC promises 205 bhp with 290nm torque but still they can drop 0-100 only to 8.0 secs where 170 bhp 1.18i does in 7 and top speed still remains in 217km/h).

So, i was wondering if what could be done and the only differences 1.16 and 1.18 has are the ECU mapping and the DP.

However, as far as i have heard, when DP of F20 is altered the computer goes crazy lighting error lights every now and than. But, i never heard someone trying to install 1.18 DP to 1.16.

Do you guys have any idea about if 1.18 DP can be installed to 1.16? Or do you guys know how to make 1.16 compete in 1.18 territory (I want to get what 200bhp and 290nm torque can do)?

I know the car has great potential and i am sure there is a way to do it without damaging the car.

Thank you for your time in reading and trying to help.

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      09-21-2014, 01:26 PM   #2
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You've bought the wrong car
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      09-21-2014, 01:58 PM   #3
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Yea i thought it was easy to upgrade. It was just a chip issue right? But not too after i purchased it and spoke to a friend who got an 1.18, i realised that i bought the wrong car.

No matter how much bhp or nm i load on it, the ECU will limit its abilities...

Now trying to find a way out of it before changing my car to a 1.18
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      09-21-2014, 03:49 PM   #4
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I know a guy with a special tune from Hartge with well over 200 hp in his 116i, with otherwise stock engine.
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      09-22-2014, 02:30 AM   #5
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Do you know what his time and max-speed is? Today spoke to a guy who does Evo-tech. He said he has a "module" which will convert it to 1.18i. Tho it sounds sweet, after all it will be 170 bhp and i will again need to push it. Tho he calims the top-speed will be 10-15km/h higher, he did not mention 0-100 time despite me asking specially about the time (which made me think it is kinda fishy).

I kinda love every other aspect of the car except the unchangeable speeds...
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      09-22-2014, 05:29 AM   #6
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No, he has not measured 0-100 or top speed, only power.

Both the 116i and the 118i do however have slightly more power than indicated by BMW. I measured our stock 116i to 139 hp at the rear hubs running on 95 octane fuel.
The 118i has more than 170 hp as well.

I think the 116i is electronically limited to 210 km/h top speed, and no tuning box can change that. It requires new software. We tested our 116i in Germany, and it runs out of power around that speed anyway. Maximum speed was 209 in both 4th, 5th and 6th gear! The car has tons of aero drag. The 3 series can go faster with the same engine.

I also tested 0-100 km/t, and beat the indicated time from BMW by one tenth of a second.
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      09-24-2014, 03:08 AM   #7
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Go for intake + catless 70mm dp + custom reflash and then tell us again who bought the wrong car.
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      09-24-2014, 05:57 AM   #8
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I will go for a custom reflash this weekend. Will see what they can do. Tho if there is a short-circuit involved i may have second thoughts.

Will see my friends 1.18i this weekend. He will get custom exhaust. If no warning comes up, i will get it done as well with a DP.

My K&N is already on its way to be installed.
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Why not just spend more from new and get a more powerful engine?
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      09-24-2014, 09:23 AM   #10
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I don't really have a valid reason for that. Tho the seller does not have a discount for any other 1 series. Due to vehicle taxes in Turkey, if i buy an engine with bigger displacement than 1.599 CC i will pay 145% tax... That sounds unbelievable but that is how things work here.
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i will get evotech modul tomorrow for my 116i, after that i will post results here. i already got bmc air filter and custom exhaust system ( i also have dp but im not really sure to install it )
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What kind of dp do you have? It will be nice to show us your exhaust and intake too, so post some photos mate!
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both of them are custom made, you can listen from here:


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im still waiting cargo for evotech, i hope tomorrow i'll get it.
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Thank you for sharing.

Did you install the DP? Did you get any warnings? Which parts you changed?
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Dp looks great. What is on second picture? Sound is very nice too.
Did you go for 63mm?
Also did you get any CEL lights inside since i dont see any cat?
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Thank you for sharing.

Did you install the DP? Did you get any warnings? Which parts you changed?
No, after evotech i will install dp

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Dp looks great. What is on second picture? Sound is very nice too.
Did you go for 63mm?
Also did you get any CEL lights inside since i dont see any cat?
yes its 63mm, its without cat because we thought it would be better sounding and performance.
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