[the_wolperting]

Just took delivery of my 2023 X7 three weeks ago. Four days ago, I get a warning light for the daytime running light malfunction (isn't that what the stupid stop sale was about--shouldn't this have been fixed before they sold me the damn car???). I was literally on the call with service and suddenly the red wrench emoji (lol) appeared. Drivetrain malfunction! What in the actual f*ck??

24 hours later, turns out I need two new ignition coils AND some new module for the running light situation. So pissed off about this. BMW quality seems to really be in the shitter these days.

Anyone else have something similar happen with the LCI?

[X7nheaven]

Originally Posted by the_wolperting

Just took delivery of my 2023 X7 three weeks ago. Four days ago, I get a warning light for the daytime running light malfunction (isn't that what the stupid stop sale was about--shouldn't this have been fixed before they sold me the damn car???). I was literally on the call with service and suddenly the red wrench emoji (lol) appeared. Drivetrain malfunction! What in the actual f*ck??

24 hours later, turns out I need two new ignition coils AND some new module for the running light situation. So pissed off about this. BMW quality seems to really be in the shitter these days.

Anyone else have something similar happen with the LCI?

Similar situation here. 3 days in I received a chassis error, high beam malfunction, headlamp alignment and following distance program malfunction. The car has been in the shop for over a week. They have been going back and forth with BMW engineers. First they thought it was a bad mPad module then that wasn't it. They reprogrammed the car multiple times with no progress. I finally got a call today saying that they are releasing a new software update tomorrow that should fix the issues. We shall see. The Tech said this has been a common issue according to BMW. The dealership has had my car more than I have since I've owned it. I'll update when I find out more.

[MystroX5]

This is a LCI issue and NOT indicative of the X7. I believe the industry will recognize pre-Covid build standards and post Covid standards. It is showing to be two different standards.

[Json2686]

Mine had 300 miles on it before engine light came on. They reprogrammed the car multiple times before telling me it’s a piece of the hybrid batter that speaks to the transmission. Truck now needs a new transmission and has been at service for nearly a month.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

This is a LCI issue and NOT indicative of the X7. I believe the industry will recognize pre-Covid build standards and post Covid standards. It is showing to be two different standards.

100%.
Exactly the same reason my 2022 is going to be dumped soon and the 2019 is staying for years now. The build quality, the road noise, the interior stability/rattle, are all issues that am seeing in the 2022 as well as in every other 2022 loaner am getting. I have two other 2019 vehicles and they are solid rock. I am super dissapointed and sad that BMW build quality is going that route… I am not getting any newer BMW until I see all these issues going back to pre-covid standards. Something is wong, and in some cases it is not only the build standards or quality, it is even choosing cheap materials. I swear I feel the 2022 (and according to others the 2023 LCI too) has a different sound insulation material than the 2019-2020 and early 2021 X7s!. I have a 2019 and 2022 and I can easily tell there is a huge difference in road noise. Something is wrong, but the 2019 is staying for years and years until BMW starts to make real BMW vehicles again!.

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by X7nheaven

Similar situation here. 3 days in I received a chassis error, high beam malfunction, headlamp alignment and following distance program malfunction. The car has been in the shop for over a week. They have been going back and forth with BMW engineers. First they thought it was a bad mPad module then that wasn't it. They reprogrammed the car multiple times with no progress. I finally got a call today saying that they are releasing a new software update tomorrow that should fix the issues. We shall see. The Tech said this has been a common issue according to BMW. The dealership has had my car more than I have since I've owned it. I'll update when I find out more.

Sounds like mine but the part never showed and bmw is buying my x7 back.

[Saejin]

OP...40i or M60i?

[Json2686]

Originally Posted by Davidhardy

Sounds like mine but the part never showed and bmw is buying my x7 back.

Who did you have to contact for this and how did it work out?

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Davidhardy

Sounds like mine but the part never showed and bmw is buying my x7 back.

Only because of that message?
If so, it may be related to a serious issue. Can you share more detail on what you know or were told for the benefit of the community here?
Many others have been asked to ignore it and keep driving…

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

Only because of that message?
If so, it may be related to a serious issue. Can you share more detail on what you know or were told for the benefit of the community here?
Many others have been asked to ignore it and keep driving…

I had the vehicle for about 800 miles and a bunch of errors starting kicking out re lights, got the chassis one and maybe another. My dealer wouldn't release the car while waiting for part in mid sept after going back in forth w bmw engineering. I think they decided it was a cpu module?? But the lemon statute triggered before it was fixed. Not even sure if it's fixed now. Bmw dealer connected me w bmw customer relations to start buyback. I've read about 7-8 similar stories on here some sound more serious than others but perhaps still the same chip issue?

I have another x7 coming w a product date of 11/28. Hope issue is resolved.

[the_wolperting]

Originally Posted by Json2686

Mine had 300 miles on it before engine light came on. They reprogrammed the car multiple times before telling me it’s a piece of the hybrid batter that speaks to the transmission. Truck now needs a new transmission and has been at service for nearly a month.

Which light came on? The transmission malfunction or drivetrain malfunction?

[Json2686]

Originally Posted by the_wolperting

Which light came on? The transmission malfunction or drivetrain malfunction?

Drivetrain malfunction followed by power failure and multiple other failures.

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by Json2686

Who did you have to contact for this and how did it work out?

The service dept at my dealer initiated the buy back on my behalf.

[Json2686]

Originally Posted by Davidhardy

The service dept at my dealer initiated the buy back on my behalf.

Then what was the next step? Did you contact your sales person to order a new one or was this all done through the service dept? Just trying to gather as much info as possible before I head down this path and they try to veery me in another direction. I appreciate the continued information you have provided thus far.

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by Json2686

Then what was the next step? Did you contact your sales person to order a new one or was this all done through the service dept? Just trying to gather as much info as possible before I head down this path and they try to veery me in another direction. I appreciate the continued information you have provided thus far.

Assuming the x7 has satisfied the lemon statute in your state, I believe bmw will try to buy back or replace your x7. Bmw wouldn't replace mine but my dealer had an allocation… I haven't signed the buy back yet—I'm waiting on some loan info to finalize the buy back details.

Btw. Typically 30 working days out of service satisfies the lemon statute but you may need to provide some notice to the service guys that the car has reached lemon status to get them moving.

[DancyQ]

Make sure you keep detailed records for all communication, situation, error code and etc.

[the_wolperting]

Originally Posted by Davidhardy

Assuming the x7 has satisfied the lemon statute in your state, I believe bmw will try to buy back or replace your x7. Bmw wouldn't replace mine but my dealer had an allocation… I haven't signed the buy back yet—I'm waiting on some loan info to finalize the buy back details.

Btw. Typically 30 working days out of service satisfies the lemon statute but you may need to provide some notice to the service guys that the car has reached lemon status to get them moving.

Omg. Are you saying your car was out of service for over 30 days?? That's insane. Anyway they just told me that the parts for my car are getting sent from Germany so looks like I'm also in for a wait.

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by the_wolperting

Omg. Are you saying your car was out of service for over 30 days?? That's insane. Anyway they just told me that the parts for my car are getting sent from Germany so looks like I'm also in for a wait.

30 working days. It's been 2 months now.

The part I was waiting for also was coming from Germany. 🤷

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Davidhardy

30 working days. It's been 2 months now.

The part I was waiting for also was coming from Germany. 🤷

I would be asking your dealer to initiate a BMW buy back on your behalf. I just can't fathom buying a brand new car and not being able to drive it for two freaking months.

[Davidhardy]

Originally Posted by mitch57

I would be asking your dealer to initiate a BMW buy back on your behalf. I just can't fathom buying a brand new car and not being able to drive it for two freaking months.

Usually lemon laws have fee shifting provisions ie plaintiff has fees paid by defendant. So it won't to talk to a consumer lawyer if bmw doesn't move for ya.

[rhalefromtn]

This POS was purchased brand new and has had the awesome drivetrain malfunction error twice now. First time it went away on its own and dealer said it must have been low on gas and it triggered it. Today it came on again and will not go off no matter how long it sits. This is already the worst car I have ever had and I paid over $100K for it. Anyone have any idea how to reset this at least long enough to get it to the dealer so they can eff it up again? It runs so rough I am afraid to drive it.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by rhalefromtn

This POS was purchased brand new and has had the awesome drivetrain malfunction error twice now. First time it went away on its own and dealer said it must have been low on gas and it triggered it. Today it came on again and will not go off no matter how long it sits. This is already the worst car I have ever had and I paid over $100K for it. Anyone have any idea how to reset this at least long enough to get it to the dealer so they can eff it up again? It runs so rough I am afraid to drive it.

What dealer told you is BS. They should have run the diag and could have found out the specific error that trigerred it. I highly doubt low gas would trigger drivetrain malfunction. All errors are stored and the dealers can read them when you get it there. I don't know how you can reset but maybe its best to tow it to the dealer? Can you elaborate on what you mean by runs rough?