US E90's

Broken1 · 10-21-2005, 03:48 PM

Was your E90 325i made in South Africa?

This would mean it has an N in the vin number!

I saw a whole bunch being made today, i just want to know how many people are getting them!

PLEASE ONLY USA/CANADA CARS ANSWER!! (That means not you dave

sorry...)

SCA · 10-21-2005, 04:00 PM

When and if I order one it will be a German Produced 325. I have a friend that is a former BMW Tech and he has stated repeatedly that the SA built E46 325s were more problematic than the German built cars.

BTW, my dealer received a large shipment yesterday, more than half were SA built 325s.

It also appears that the Regensburg (Germany) is now building sedans along with Munich. I have yet to see any from the new factory in Germany.

Nikki · 10-21-2005, 04:06 PM

Oh I voted and then realized it says 325i,
and I have a 330i,
is this poll only for 325i or all e90?

iDrive-E90 · 10-21-2005, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki

Oh I voted and then realized it says 325i,
and I have a 330i,
is this poll only for 325i or all e90?

Me too. RTFM

StevenT · 10-21-2005, 04:09 PM

Oops, I also voted and then realized that you were specifying 325.
My 330xi was built in Germany. I have no idea if different models of the 3 series are built in different places.

Broken1 · 10-22-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCA

When and if I order one it will be a German Produced 325. I have a friend that is a former BMW Tech and he has stated repeatedly that the SA built E46 325s were more problematic than the German built cars.

BTW, my dealer received a large shipment yesterday, more than half were SA built 325s.

It also appears that the Regensburg (Germany) is now building sedans along with Munich. I have yet to see any from the new factory in Germany.

BMW South Africa has won the BMW Internal Quality award 5 times in a row - making there cars LESS problematic then the German built ones.

It's evident even on this forum. Read the poeple's posts with german cars and all the rattles, shakes and paint defects. Then read all the posts of Dave in Ausi (and other ausi guys - SA built cars) all the south african guys...no complaints?

It's fact.

jocamryn · 10-22-2005, 08:34 AM

Hmmm,

I want a GERMAN car built BY Germans.

Take a look at the name BAVARIAN Motor Works. So Munchen or Regensurg is where I'll be asking about when I buy mine.

fdc · 10-22-2005, 08:35 AM

sorry guys ... I voted but I have a 325xi .... that's for sure made in Germany ...

LEDZEP · 10-22-2005, 08:41 AM

Both are cars are Munich born. The E90 and the E91.

icedragon · 10-22-2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken1

Was your E90 325i made in South Africa?

PLEASE ONLY USA/CANADA CARS ANSWER!! (That means not you dave

sorry...)

Canadian E90 owners do not need to answer, as ALL Canadian E90s are built in Germany.

SCA · 10-22-2005, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocamryn

Hmmm,

I want a GERMAN car built BY Germans.

Take a look at the name BAVARIAN Motor Works. So Munchen or Regensurg is where I'll be asking about when I buy mine.

I agree! Similar to purchasing a Honda, Toyota, and etc. built in the USA. The quility is certainly not there when compared to their vehicles built in Japan.

Nikki · 10-22-2005, 10:14 AM

I thought that the quality was shown to be better at the S. African plant?

SCA · 10-22-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki

I thought that the quality was shown to be better at the S. African plant?

That is what some say.

My understanding is that 325s built in SA are built from Knock-Down kits shipped from Germany. The cars are just assembled there.

Mark · 10-22-2005, 10:49 AM

I'm MUCH more happy with my SA built BMW then the previous Munich built one. I actually kind of hope my next BMW comes from SA! No complaints from me

E90Fleet · 10-22-2005, 10:53 AM

We build E90 from scratch here in South Africa ( no kits )
Only large part brought in is the enigne ( All E90 6cyl engines are from Austria, all 4 Cyl from England )

As said BMW SA has won the Internal quality awayed fro more than 5 Years in a row. Australia also reported 80% less defects in SA built cars over germany built cars when they switched.

Memebers her that have has SA buillt E46 and E90have commented on the good quality

If your 7th last VIN number is a N then your car was buillt here in SA.
They only make 325i here for the USA, but every other model for Japan, Australia, South Africa, Asia, ect ect

E90Fleet · 10-22-2005, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCA

It also appears that the Regensburg (Germany) is now building sedans along with Munich. I have yet to see any from the new factory in Germany.

Munich, Regensburg, Leipzig and Rosslyn South Africa make the E90

Munich also makes the E91

Regensburg will make E92

E90Fleet · 10-22-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocamryn

Hmmm,

I want a GERMAN car built BY Germans.

Most of the car is actually built by robot.

People mostly only do a very small part of the welding and push the fittings into the body in the final assembly section

Nikki · 10-22-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCA

It also appears that the Regensburg (Germany) is now building sedans along with Munich. I have yet to see any from the new factory in Germany.

My car is from Regensburg

jocamryn · 10-22-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Most of the car is actually built by robot.

People mostly only do a very small part of the welding and push the fittings into the body in the final assembly section

My wife's a Bavarian.. so I'm Biased..lol Be nice to know that my car was built in Regensburg, 30 minutes from where I was stationed and where she is from.

Again.. BAVARIAN Motor Works NOT SA motorworks...

E90Fleet · 10-22-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocamryn

Again.. BAVARIAN Motor Works NOT SA motorworks...

One problem: None of the current E90 engines are built in Germany ( 6 cylinder in Austria, 4 cylinders in England )

Also be shure to stay clear of X3, X5 and Z4 then

chrissal1 · 10-22-2005, 03:29 PM

E90Fleet,

I can't take it anymore...I'm losing sleep over it. Please spell 'shure' 'sure'....hehe

I for one would much preferred my car to be built in SA.... Wish I could have been on the tour with you guys.....

David328M-Sport · 10-22-2005, 04:10 PM

N it is for me. Feels like it was completely hand built. Nothing else to add .

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SCA Brigadier General 565 Rep 3,742 Posts Drives: Multiple BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 🇺🇸 iTrader: (0)	When and if I order one it will be a German Produced 325. I have a friend that is a former BMW Tech and he has stated repeatedly that the SA built E46 325s were more problematic than the German built cars. BTW, my dealer received a large shipment yesterday, more than half were SA built 325s. It also appears that the Regensburg (Germany) is now building sedans along with Munich. I have yet to see any from the new factory in Germany.
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Nikki Major General 990 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: Sepang Z4MC Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: LA iTrader: (9)	Oh I voted and then realized it says 325i, and I have a 330i, is this poll only for 325i or all e90? __________________ Nikki
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StevenT Enlisted Member 0 Rep 39 Posts Drives: E90 330xi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	Oops, I also voted and then realized that you were specifying 325. My 330xi was built in Germany. I have no idea if different models of the 3 series are built in different places.
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jocamryn Major 145 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: '23X4 M40i/'24 X2(In Transit) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA, for now iTrader: (0)	Hmmm, I want a GERMAN car built BY Germans. Take a look at the name BAVARIAN Motor Works. So Munchen or Regensurg is where I'll be asking about when I buy mine.
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E90Fleet Lieutenant General 1312 Rep 10,185 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	We build E90 from scratch here in South Africa ( no kits ) Only large part brought in is the enigne ( All E90 6cyl engines are from Austria, all 4 Cyl from England ) As said BMW SA has won the Internal quality awayed fro more than 5 Years in a row. Australia also reported 80% less defects in SA built cars over germany built cars when they switched. Memebers her that have has SA buillt E46 and E90have commented on the good quality If your 7th last VIN number is a N then your car was buillt here in SA. They only make 325i here for the USA, but every other model for Japan, Australia, South Africa, Asia, ect ect
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chrissal1 Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 263 Posts Drives: 340i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	E90Fleet, I can't take it anymore...I'm losing sleep over it. Please spell 'shure' 'sure'....hehe I for one would much preferred my car to be built in SA.... Wish I could have been on the tour with you guys.....
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