[mmmpassion]

It seems that this guy was very well informed:
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=54
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[FLOSS M]

M2 Competition ....not M2 CS

[GLTSRY1905]

Originally Posted by mmmpassion

It seems that this guy was very well informed:
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=54
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Let's hope this new s58 will sound better...

[SickFinga]

Originally Posted by mmmpassion

It seems that this guy was very well informed:
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=54
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Trust me, he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[mookie45]

Nice! Will the x3 M take on the Audi QS5?

[raysspl]

Need more diesels here in USA

[Omar81]

No news about the 2 Series GC?

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by rypik@BW

Imo regarding X3/X4M Real question is what Audi/Benz model will it compete with. Look at tfsi SQ5 version. B58 in refreshed tweaked a bit release might be sufficient. Whether would it have S designation or not, thats totally different question thou. Or another question, which i do not know answer to, which BMW engine is nów developed as a base for future M perf cars... N55 - not. B58 - with TU maybe, maybe not. Maybe someone else have more details on engine development.

Also remember that Mercedes is coming out with a new inline 6, the M256, which makes 408 hp/369 lbft. Jaguar has the new Ingenium inline 6, with tunes ranging from 300 to 500+. So, we know that BMW is watching the developments and upcoming performance of these engines as well, in order to gauge what they can or want to do with the B58.

[Sir Loin]

F39 X2

YH31,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 sDrive20i,SAV,,,EUR,LL,FWD,5,MECH,,,,
YH32,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 sDrive20i,SAV,,,EUR,RL,FWD,5,MECH,,,,
YH41,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 sDrive20i,SAV,,,EUR,LL,FWD,5,AUT,,,,
YH42,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 sDrive20i,SAV,,,EUR,RL,FWD,5,AUT,,,,
YJ53,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive28i,SAV,,,USA,LL,AWD,5,MECH,,,,
YJ63,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive28i,SAV,,,USA,LL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,
YL11,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,LL,AWD,5,MECH,,,,
YL12,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,RL,AWD,5,MECH,,,,
YL21,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,LL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,
YL22,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,RL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,
YN31,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,LL,AWD,5,MECH,,,,
YN32,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,RL,AWD,5,MECH,,,,
YN41,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,LL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,
YN42,P,BMW PKW,X',F39,X2 xDrive20d,SAV,,,EUR,RL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,

So no X2 M35i yet?

[mbanks21]

Originally Posted by Omar81

No news about the 2 Series GC?

I'm waiting. M240/M2 GC with a manual tranny please!

[autopal]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

Also remember that Mercedes is coming out with a new inline 6, the M256, which makes 408 hp/369 lbft. Jaguar has the new Ingenium inline 6, with tunes ranging from 300 to 500+. So, we know that BMW is watching the developments and upcoming performance of these engines as well, in order to gauge what they can or want to do with the B58.

Mercedes said their inline six will make MORE than 408hp and 369 tq. Most people expecting around 450ish horse power.

[autopal]

When should we expect to see the G20 3 series unveiled? Early next year as a 2019 model?

[SanT335]

what engine will the m40 z4 have?

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by MRinline6

M40 Z4

That's interesting, 280kw would be about 375 horsepower...

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is going to be an all new 6er. Just different from today's car ie no longer a luxury GT but close to the tradition of BMW Coupes like the E9 and original 6er.

Well that's a shame because Mercedes beautifully proves you can have an E coupé/cab that is a semi luxury GT yet clearly set apart from the high-end S coupé/cab. There definitely is room in the BMW range for a new slightly downgraded 5er-based 6er with enough space left from the new 7er-based 8er. Maybe not as luxury oriented as the E but still a sporty/business 4 seater, not a 2+2 please... The Z range seems more adequate to fit a 911 rival into.

[scoobysaurus]

Originally Posted by advantage20

Well that's a shame because Mercedes beautifully proves you can have an E coupé/cab that is a semi luxury GT yet clearly set apart from the high-end S coupé/cab. There definitely is room in the BMW range for a new slightly downgraded 5er-based 6er with enough space left from the new 7er-based 8er. Maybe not as luxury oriented as the E but still a sporty/business 4 seater, not a 2+2 please... The Z range seems more adequate to fit a 911 rival into.

Or better yet keep the 6 series designation exclusive to
the GC as a 5er based CLS & A7 competitor while the 2 door models move to the 8 series.

[5against8]

UJ03,P,BMW PKW,X',F98,X4 M,SAC,,,USA,LL,AWD,5,AUT,,,,

Maybe one of these for me next...

[Crashnbrn5]

X3M and X4M will have proper M engines, this is from the source. Whether it be the S55 or the S58 is to be unveiled. It will not be a tuned version of the B58, though they will put that in the X3 M40i, which will have 375hp from the factory, expect the X3M to have 430hp from the factory.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mmmpassion

It seems that this guy was very well informed:
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=54

As William Shakespeare wrote in 'The Merchant of Venice' play: "All that glisters is not gold."

[V-Eight]

No Z4M at the moment by the way.

And......what about the new M3?????????

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by Sir Loin

So no X2 M35i yet?

YN11-13, 21, and 23.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by advantage20

Well that's a shame because Mercedes beautifully proves you can have an E coupé/cab that is a semi luxury GT yet clearly set apart from the high-end S coupé/cab. There definitely is room in the BMW range for a new slightly downgraded 5er-based 6er with enough space left from the new 7er-based 8er. Maybe not as luxury oriented as the E but still a sporty/business 4 seater, not a 2+2 please... The Z range seems more adequate to fit a 911 rival into.

The new E-Klasse Coupe? The "Sports Coupe" with no defining surface lines that it looks like an athlete who lost his definition and went flabby after a binge of pastries?

The best looking mid size coupe is the BMW 4er. It's outline is absolutely perfect and more importantly it has broad wheel arches especially at the rear. Unlike the Mercedes C-Klasse Coupe. And if you say Cadillac ATS Coupe or Audi A5?
I say....