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      06-03-2014, 09:39 AM   #1
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fading rubber seals around windows

Guys I took my wifes m135i in for its first service - car has done 6000kms and its hit over a year. The car was washed and cleaned by them. A few days later my wife calls me and says whats wrong with my rubber seals around the windows. I checked it out when I got home and its faded quite bad. Not just one spot but all around the windows on both sides. Kinda looks milky. I took the car back and the guy told me its rubber thats how it gets! I told him seriously a garaged car used for shopping kids and hardly driven I can expect this! He said I need to maintain it! I told him my car sits outside has done 10 times the kms and the rubbers are still new. I told him I bet a 10k kia wouldnt have faded rubbers! He applied some solution which helped but it didnt solve the issue. I told him so after every wash I got to apply something. seriously! he asked me to follow it up with the regional technical manager which I will. He also didnt believe it happened after they washed it! My question is has anyone else experienced such poor quality window seals? I will be pursuing it to swap them all out. My only concern is how good of a job they would do
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      06-03-2014, 10:51 AM   #2
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It is quite common that they become like that after being washed with degreaser, since they dry out. There are specific products you can apply to plastic and rubber to keep it nice and black. You can even use other stuff, like lamp oil or shoe polish...
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I made the mistake of having the wax touch the rubber on my F30, I now use painter's tape when I wax the car.

I could be wrong but in my case, I think the wax damaged the rubber trim.
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      06-03-2014, 11:00 AM   #4
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I go over the outer seals with a trim restorer such as Back to Black before applying wax as then it just wipes off. Doing the seals twice a year in the Aus climate may be needed to keep them looking good and supple.
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I could be wrong but in my case, I think the wax damaged the rubber trim.
Some wax types contain chalk, and that chalk is difficult to remove again from rubber surfaces. Some of my friends are very into car detailing. They mostly use wax with no chalk, but they still mask the rubber with tape.
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They will of used TFR solution. It marks rubber seals!
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Nice mod, tricked out rubber seals with coloured tape of your choice.
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I go over the outer seals with a trim restorer such as Back to Black before applying wax as then it just wipes off. Doing the seals twice a year in the Aus climate may be needed to keep them looking good and supple.
I agree with Bob. A bit of elbow grease needed, but that's true of everything that's worthwhile.
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This typically happens with a strong degreaser or getting polish on plastic / rubber. In my experience they will never go back to normal again. Putting some wd40 or similar oil will make it go black again, until you wash it of the next time.

A friend of mine got his brand new Mitsubishi Outlander polished from the dealer, it was all white on the plastic parts, never got well so they changed all the plastic / rubber bits. I would ask BMW about it, and probably get the company who did this to pay for a fix.
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Don't put WD40 or any sort of oil on the rubber seals they will rot.

With faded trim, applying a good trim restorer such as Armour All Back To Black or GTechniq C4 and rather than buffing off, allowing it to dwell on the plastics before removing excess with a gentle wipe is the way to go. The restored trim will last through several washes and then just need a light wipe over with restorer once or twice a year depending on how the vehicle is stored or the climate.
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Thanks for all the info guys. There are some good rubber enhancing products on the market but I would have to say bmw will have to replace these rubbers as they wont be same again. They shouldnt have washed the car after the service. So I want them to change the rubbers. I hope theyre not difficult even though the initial person I spoke to was a little reluctant to begin with. He changed his tune after he tried to enhance them and he saw the end result wasnt satisfactory
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Some wax types contain chalk, and that chalk is difficult to remove again from rubber surfaces. Some of my friends are very into car detailing. They mostly use wax with no chalk, but they still mask the rubber with tape.
I switched to this wax on the F20:

http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotiv...ech-waxreg-20/

What I used on the F30:

http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotiv...er-wax-liquid/

I was told that the NXT series wax is not as harsh as the Cleaner wax. I didn't verify the info. but it costs 3 times as much so I assumed it's better not a very good logic, I know
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Nice mod, tricked out rubber seals with coloured tape of your choice.
I think I will switch to Red next time
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I think I will switch to Red next time
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