10-24-2008, 07:57 PM | #1 |
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In case you missed this month's Roundel
"BMW will soon launch tii, a division whose mission is to develop and market high-performance parts and complete vehicles based on Munich's small cars and SUVs. The 1 Series coupe-based tii, introduced in 2007, is an example of the new unit's capabilities. The next-generation 1 Series - codenamed F20 and due out in 2011 - will feature a tii model with a twin-turbocharged, four-cylinder engine and lightweight body and chassis components. It's likely that a 3 Series tii will be introduced by the end of this year, and the F30 3 Series will include a tii model as well. The X1 will also receive ti attention."
So it seems tii will be a separate division like BMW M. I am still not sure about the X1... About time to register F20addicts.com, I think.
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10-25-2008, 09:00 AM | #3 |
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Why have both M and tii? I would rather they expand their efficient dynamics section and bring something over like the lexus rx400h or any of the two mode hybrids GM is doing, after all it was a joint venture. I understand lighter = more fuel efficiency, but I doubt that is what the tii will be going after.
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I am all for energy conscious motors, but am also well aware that you need 200,000 miles on a Prius to offset the carbon pollution from manufacturing those fuel cells. Leave those cars to GM to produce (and fuel with un-green subsidized corn ethenol), BMW should stick to using high speed braking dynamics to power my iphone. :wink: Scrapping 100+ years of innovations and R&D on the internal combustion engine for the crisis of the month is bad business imo.
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10-25-2008, 03:11 PM | #7 | |
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As for the carbon footprint of vehicles, not really a concern of mine as I am already going to hell for that given my line of work. I would like to be able to fill up a small SUV without first having to rob the register at the gas station I am filling up at. A hybrid appeals to me because on a trip to work I could essentially stay all electric as the speed limit isn't greater than 30mph. However, I want a decent amount of power for highway driving as well. I guess a BMW filled with soy biodiesel would work as well, but diesel is typically higher here so I don't know if the fuel savings would reach my pocket. I know as most of us on this board like performance cars the general population of 1addicts will be happy and in a way I am as well. But I would rather have BMW expand their M division to include the tii ideas and create a new division for fuel efficiency.
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A 4-cylinder? Why give up perfect mechanic balance and engine note to save a few pounds of weight? Maybe a 2.6 or 2.0 I6 with a higher redline or something but a 4-cylinder would keep me away from the tii. Yes I have driven flat-4 and inline-four turbo motors and I do not like their torque characteristics or sound, well maybe the flat-4 for sound. Why do you think the R32-34 GTR and MK4 Supra are such great cars and still sought after? Just look under the hood.
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08-14-2009, 10:37 AM | #9 |
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Honestly I think Tii division was made solely to not have to deal with the PR nightmare or making an M 1 series. So long as the car drives like an M should you could call the the new 1 series goofyfoot edition for all I care.
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08-14-2009, 11:31 AM | #10 | |
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The fact would appear to be that an inherently balanced motor isn't all that critical anymore. Look at how many cars use V10s, non 90-degree V8s, and even the Audi 5 cylinders that are supposed to be coming soon. |
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mmm F30 3-series...will it pay ANY homage to the E30 3-series??
i swear, BMW is pulling an AMG with its M-division...whatever sells more units..for the sake of a well priced M-badges.
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sounds awesome
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