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      05-26-2013, 09:16 PM   #1
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Cheapest Place To Buy BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with Race Display

I was wondering if anybody could tell me where is it the cheapest to buy the BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with Race Display in the US or the World ?

The Part #32302230187 for the F30, which I think is the same for the F20.

BMW Morristown seems to be the cheapest @ US$1,400.

Has anybody installed this steering wheel on their cars ? Any comments.

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I don't really see the point in the BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with Race Display.
It is fixed to the top centre of the wheel, so almost impossible to view when cornering hard at or at high speed on a track.

As a gimmick for road use, it is way too expensive

BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with centre red line is better and more cost effective.
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How do you read oil temp without the race display?
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I don't really see the point in the BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with Race Display.
It is fixed to the top centre of the wheel, so almost impossible to view when cornering hard at or at high speed on a track.

As a gimmick for road use, it is way too expensive

BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with centre red line is better and more cost effective.
I do agree its a gimmick and it's expensive.

Thus I am trying to see whats the lowest price I get it for, my buddy got one and its a great toy.

In terms of reading it, the g meter will stay on the screen even if your car stopped so u can read it.

I'm just sick of inputting the vin everytime just to see my oil temperature. Furthermore dont want to put a gauge in the air con slot..

The non-race display one is US$600 bucks which I think is ok, given it matches all the other carbon bits if you bought it.

I would probably sell my old steering wheel and the carbon bit from the race display steering wheel. I dont and dont plan on buying any of the carbon bits, and I know that my original M Sport Silver bit from the steering wheel fits on the M Performance Race Display steering wheel.
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I wouldn't get it. It doesn't really help, and it gets distracting for me on mountain roads at night (to be honest during the day too) Drove a friend's car equip with it at leisure speed.
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I got an OBD plug in thingie and the Torque pro app for my phone. The phone (S3) fits perfectly at a 45degree angle in the oddments tray. App gives the following

Acceleration Sensors
Engine oil temp
Transmission oil temp
Engine Load
Engine RPM
Intake Manifold Pressure
Mass Air Flow Rate
Throttle Position
Timing Advance
Trip Distance
0-100kph Time
0-60mph Time
1/4 Mile time
1/8 Mile Time
Altitude (GPS)
Ambient Air Temp
Barometric pressure
Engine Coolant Temperature
Fuel Pressure
Fuel Trim bank X sensor X
Horsepower
Intake Air Temperature Air temperature measured at air intake
Speed (OBD)
Speed (GPS)

+ a load more stuff including fault codes etc.

Total cost. £20.

The cost of the M performance wheel with or without the display is lunacy.
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The cost of the M performance wheel with or without the display is lunacy.
Cannot be better described....
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Have you tested the OBD thingy with engine RPM? It does not work with my unit (from Deal Extreme) on the 116i. All other signals seems okay, except for the one I actually need to run fake engine sound applications! :-)
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I do agree its a gimmick and it's expensive.

Thus I am trying to see whats the lowest price I get it for, my buddy got one and its a great toy.

In terms of reading it, the g meter will stay on the screen even if your car stopped so u can read it.

I'm just sick of inputting the vin everytime just to see my oil temperature. Furthermore dont want to put a gauge in the air con slot..

The non-race display one is US$600 bucks which I think is ok, given it matches all the other carbon bits if you bought it.

I would probably sell my old steering wheel and the carbon bit from the race display steering wheel. I dont and dont plan on buying any of the carbon bits, and I know that my original M Sport Silver bit from the steering wheel fits on the M Performance Race Display steering wheel.
sorry for the thread jack,
but where can u get the non-race one for $600 us?
from Hong Kong?

thanks!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusF20
I don't really see the point in the BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with Race Display.
It is fixed to the top centre of the wheel, so almost impossible to view when cornering hard at or at high speed on a track.

As a gimmick for road use, it is way too expensive

BMW M Performance Alcantara Steering Wheel with centre red line is better and more cost effective.
Couldn't agree more!
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      06-01-2013, 03:25 AM   #12
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But if you corner really hard on a track, the steering wheel should still be pointed straight.
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sorry for the thread jack,
but where can u get the non-race one for $600 us?
from Hong Kong?

thanks!
eBay - the F30 one is the exact same as the F20 one.
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Or get Royal steering wheels to retrim your M sport wheel in alcantara with a choice of stitching colours (they will do tri colour M stitching) a choice of centre ring colour and even reprofile the wheel all for less than £200.
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I know you have to buy a new airbag (etc.) but IMO, if I go ahead and swap the steering wheel, it will be for the much nicer F30 3-spoke wheel..
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I know you have to buy a new airbag (etc.) but IMO, if I go ahead and swap the steering wheel, it will be for the much nicer F30 3-spoke wheel..
I did think about this one, but my dealer said its not yet.
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Mind sharing which obd plugin thingy you use and where best to buy it from?

I too find that its uneasy not knowing the oil/water temp and was planning to get the mpa steering. However it doesnt seem justified in terms of price to get it at all.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mowflow View Post
I got an OBD plug in thingie and the Torque pro app for my phone. The phone (S3) fits perfectly at a 45degree angle in the oddments tray. App gives the following

Acceleration Sensors
Engine oil temp
Transmission oil temp
Engine Load
Engine RPM
Intake Manifold Pressure
Mass Air Flow Rate
Throttle Position
Timing Advance
Trip Distance
0-100kph Time
0-60mph Time
1/4 Mile time
1/8 Mile Time
Altitude (GPS)
Ambient Air Temp
Barometric pressure
Engine Coolant Temperature
Fuel Pressure
Fuel Trim bank X sensor X
Horsepower
Intake Air Temperature Air temperature measured at air intake
Speed (OBD)
Speed (GPS)

+ a load more stuff including fault codes etc.

Total cost. £20.

The cost of the M performance wheel with or without the display is lunacy.
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But if you corner really hard on a track, the steering wheel should still be pointed straight.


If you are really hanging it out the front wheels are pointing in the right direction. The steering wheel only indicates the direction. It is not straight in the drivers line

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If you are really hanging it out the front wheels are pointing in the right direction. The steering wheel only indicates the direction. It is not straight in the drivers line
Yes, all four wheel will be pointing into the corner, and the steering wheel should be pretty much centered where you are cornering the hardest.
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Yes, all four wheel will be pointing into the corner, and the steering wheel should be pretty much centered where you are cornering the hardest.

'Technical fact'
Change of direction can only occur whilst there is 'input' that is turning of the steering wheel (ever if it is only slight) thus changing the axis/direction of the wheels causing a change in direction either to the left or right in reference to the desired approach into, traverse or exit of the corner.
Speed and suspension vary the ark in either under steer or over steer.
Road surface and camber can provide some additional directional force.

Therefore, the steering wheel cannot be centered during true cornering.

My original comment about the Centre band steering wheel was in reference to different styles of driving including Track, Rally and drift
The band position helps the driver push or pull the steering wheel, letting him know where the centre/straight line always is.

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Your "tecnical fact" leads me to believe you haven't ever tried to push the car to the limit on a track. It is perfectly possible to maintain cornering with the steering centered, and even change direction to turn the other way. You can even corner with the steering pointing outwards, as drifters do regularly.

The center mark on the steering wheel used to be useful in the old days, but with modern cars the steering rack is so quick that you rarely have to change grips on the steering wheel in corners. With hands in fixed positions, you will always know where the center position is. Very few race cars have this center mark now.

To produce maximum G-force in a corner, a car with even weight distribution (like the F20/F21) will need all four wheels to contribute as evenly as possible. The means similar drift angle on all four. Unless the corner is very tight, that means the steering will be pretty much centered (only steering slightly towards inside or outside).

There will usually be a significant steering input at the turn in to a corner, but the transverse forces are not all that high at that point. It is more about causing the car to rotate and settle the suspension before you can balance it to corner hard. At this point, you will typically unwind the steering on a car that doesn't understeer.
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Your "tecnical fact" leads me to believe you haven't ever tried to push the car to the limit on a track. .
Firstly, you should not assume that you are the only expert or have the most experience.
Some of us have also raced open wheel and rally.

Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm
YOU STILL NEED TO TURN A STEERING WHEEL TO EFECT THE PRIMARY CHANGE IN DIRECTION
even if it is only by small increments
I would never rely on 'self centering' of the steering and wheel position when pushing any car hard though a corner. Or is that just us OLD SCHOOL types
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