[footie]

Originally Posted by fatjoez

just to add a lil fuel to the fire... I came up with this today

At present such an ad would be tricky for BMW to answer back, but if they did I would imagine it would go something like this, 'yeah 'Check mate' but only it the US '

[skoot3r]

Originally Posted by footie

At present such an ad would be tricky for BMW to answer back, but if they did I would imagine it would go something like this, 'yeah 'Check mate' but only it the US '

[Zero.7]

Originally Posted by footie

At present such an ad would be tricky for BMW to answer back, but if they did I would imagine it would go something like this, 'yeah 'Check mate' but only it the US '

How 'bout the reported release of the e92 M3 CSL against this B8 RS5? That would be a very nice comparo.

[fatjoez]

lol there appears to be a page 10 to this thread but I can't seem to access it.
Lets see if posting a reply helps.

edit: I guess not. page 9 it is lol.

re: RS5 vs M3 I doubt the M3 CSL will fair any better.
The RS5 trumps the normal M3 so badly not even CSL can save it..

this comment was on the money too

Originally Posted by zamafir@autoblog

better idea. in order to really zing audi bring a new x3 to market already, or bring an actual competitor to the R8 to the market. That'd be cool. or since Audi does most of lambo's engineering, bring an actual competitor to the Murci or Gallardo to the market... yeah.. that'd be cool. Or.. I dunno, place in the top 4 at the ring, since audi and Porsche are one now and kinda dominate there. Or… compete in lemans again and win there.
Wait… wait.. marketing, nm. Keep aping audi’s bit in response, that’ll work, just like you did when you went with an identical displacement V8 for the m3.

Love BMWs, real bmws, I'd take any 5 series over any A6 in a heartbeat, but BMW's lost their way for the most part and resting on their laurels and hoping they'll make headway with marketing, meh. X6, 5 series GT, lack of an R8 competitor or real new X3, 1 series portlyness, etc etc… yeah… less mud, more back on task. Audi’s made every bit as much progress as bwm’s made none sitting on the status quo plateau they’re on (and regressing in the way of the x6 et-al).

[Master Deep]

Exactly. and wtf is up with them putting electric steering with no road feel on all their new cars?

[footie]

Originally Posted by Cni2i

How 'bout the reported release of the e92 M3 CSL against this B8 RS5? That would be a very nice comparo.

Interesting idea that, I as much as you would welcome such a thing, but when BMW decided to just give the M3 minor suspension and DSC tweaks it became clear that BMW are preoccupied with getting their M5 to the showroom and developing their next proper M3. I think what BMW have done is a damage limiting exercise with the Competition Package, they probably decided that rather than trying to compete on a figures/stats battle they are going to play the emotion card which the M3 has in buckets, it pulls the heart strings when you are really on it better than any of the competition.

But is that enough.

[josephr25]

Originally Posted by footie

Interesting idea that, I as much as you would welcome such a thing, but when BMW decided to just give the M3 minor suspension and DSC tweaks it became clear that BMW are preoccupied with getting their M5 to the showroom and developing their next proper M3. I think what BMW have done is a damage limiting exercise with the Competition Package, they probably decided that rather than trying to compete on a figures/stats battle they are going to play the emotion card which the M3 has in buckets, it pulls the heart strings when you are really on it better than any of the competition.

But is that enough.

Probably not anymore, since they focused on interior appointments at the same time (and jacking up the weight in the process).