[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by Llarry

I suspect there's a long line at the Nissan dealer. And probably the dreaded markup on price, too.

These cars are NOT worth the markup, or the price that is sticker.

If you love them, you love them, but in that segment, an M2 will kick all of it's lilly livered butt, and the Supra, and the Z4 are all better buys, faster, and with better brakes.

Having spent ten years trying to properly re-brake a GT-R, don't let another Nissan under-braked car continue to sell without repercussions. Not trying to be a jerk, but can't tell you how much I spent trying to fix that problem.

Shawn

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

These cars are NOT worth the markup, or the price that is sticker.

If you love them, you love them, but in that segment, an M2 will kick all of it's lilly livered butt, and the Supra, and the Z4 are all better buys, faster, and with better brakes.

Having spent ten years trying to properly re-brake a GT-R, don't let another Nissan under-braked car continue to sell without repercussions. Not trying to be a jerk, but can't tell you how much I spent trying to fix that problem.

Shawn

Wife’s never had a problem with the ones she’s owned. Just normal driving, no racing.

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Wife’s never had a problem with the ones she’s owned. Just normal driving, no racing.

Fully understand. Those who love them, love them. I drove my GT-R for ten years. 40,000 hard track miles. My F90 does the same times, for less money, more reliably, and better brakes. I was a Nissan Fanboi forever, but when put to the objective data, the competitor cars NOW are much better, at a similar price.

If you get her one, hopefully they'll maintain their price. I suspect they might because of the faithful, but I don't know. And I can't say the damn thing won't give her good service. They'll last forever, and easy/cheap to repair.

Just giving you my $0.02. But on a BMW board? You know the recommendation would be for the M2/Supra/Z4. There's some downsides there, but head to head on a track? It's a thrashing.

Shawn

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

Fully understand. Those who love them, love them. I drove my GT-R for ten years. 40,000 hard track miles. My F90 does the same times, for less money, more reliably, and better brakes. I was a Nissan Fanboi forever, but when put to the objective data, the competitor cars NOW are much better, at a similar price.

If you get her one, hopefully they'll maintain their price. I suspect they might because of the faithful, but I don't know. And I can't say the damn thing won't give her good service. They'll last forever, and easy/cheap to repair.

Just giving you my $0.02. But on a BMW board? You know the recommendation would be for the M2/Supra/Z4. There's some downsides there, but head to head on a track? It's a thrashing.

Shawn

Appreciate your opinion. I said she wanted one. Didn’t say she was going to get one. I think she likes that it’s throwback looking like the original 240Z.

I read that it’s not a whole lot different than the 370Z except for the engine and the exterior.

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Appreciate your opinion. I said she wanted one. Didn’t say she was going to get one. I think she likes that it’s throwback looking like the original 240Z.

I read that they’re not a whole lot different than the 370Z except for the engine and the exterior.

Sorry dude. I was jumping to conclusions. Guess I've been married too long.

It's a Nissan. Built with one particular bent - lasting a long long time with the performance that they could manage out of the budget given. I've watched a lot of reviews on that performance segment. It's one of my favorites, despite having only owned one 2018 M2. Cool segment.

This car is a particular disappointment for me, as several others. The Z could have been a lot faster and the brakes could have been tons better. Other disappointments have been the Honda Civic Type R. And the WRX. These cars have evolved VERY little, while the performance of other cars has dramatically improved, with performance and braking performance AND safety, AND gas mileage. The Z is the best of the group on evolution, but I was hoping for more. Hoping I guess, my previous FanBoi commitment to be validated.

Shawn

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

Sorry dude. I was jumping to conclusions. Guess I've been married too long.

Shawn

That’s okay. I guess I was a bit misleading saying “it would be her fourth Z.” I didn’t mean she was going to rush out and buy one. She mentioned it in passing and is not the type to spontaneously go out and buy a car because of some ad or commercial, though the new Z seems like it's been 'coming' forever. lol

[Murf the Surf]

Oh my.

[floridaorange]

[///MPhatic]

I hardly ever drive the Exige to work because the conditions have to be just perfect, so I had to snap a pic this morning. Historic district BTW, not the hood. lol

[Lady Jane]

I guess it's not used to plow the fields.

[PcarFan]

Standing out from the crowd.

[Lady Jane]

[///MPhatic]

These tails...

[Buug959]

YM

[HappynHealthy]

This is from the show at Carlisle, Pa this past weekend. Guess what car this is that was modified

[BMWGUYinCO]

Marienplatz has been in the city center of Munich since 1158.

Frauenkirche (church) was completed in 1488.

The BMW "M"740D was constructed in 2023.

The 3 engineering marvels met together on May 20th, 2023
(This was the car we rented for our 2 week tour of Europe)

[3798j]

Originally Posted by HappynHealthy

This is from the show at Carlisle, Pa this past weekend. Guess what car this is that was modified

That headlamp/fog lamp combo has me guessing Mercury Merkur.

[shawnhayes]

Cross post, but it’s worth it…

I’ve always been a very lucky man. This time, very VERY lucky.

[HappynHealthy]

Bingo!

[Llarry]

I'm back with another Ferrari for sale. No, not mine -- I just saw the ad on the internet.

2012 Ferrari 458 Spider -- this is the V-8 mid-engine model with 562 horsepower, which sounds adequate. The car listed for over $362,00 when new and has 11,000 miles on it. The asking price is $279,000. Now don't all rush up here at once.

Here are the photos -- the car is Blu Pozzi (dark blue) with a red interior. The window sticker is entertaining as usual. After seeing the prices of Ferrari options, BMW options seem to be priced pretty reasonably!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_458

[Alen Bajra]

Always at the gas station ⛽️

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by Alen Bajra

Always at the gas station ⛽️

The price you pay for all of those horses!