[ovekvam]

Yes, the standard lights are not very good, and it affects the look of the car significantly as well. You can tell from a rather long distance that it has the "wrong" lights.

[No one]

Originally Posted by Tamasine

Sorry for the dumb question but are the standard headlights in the F20/F21 not very good, compared with the LEDs and Xenons?

If you take the burden of reading this thread you'll see the pre-LCI basic halogen headlights are claimed poor even compared to other car's halogen lights. The (LCI!) LEDs (discovered not too good already?) and (pre-LCI!) Xenons are different league. You either get them or forget them.

Originally Posted by Tamasine

It's just that when I search for used cars, hardly any have been specified with Xenons (normally only the M135i).

All the whining is here already, just as well.

Originally Posted by Tamasine

Would you buy a 1 series (used or new) with the standard lights or would it be that important to make sure it had either Xenons or full LEDs?

How important it is depends on you solely: if you are a daytime only driver, not looking to show off it should be just fine. Otherwise, this thread is about the correct ways to improve in either aspect. But not nearly up to the advanced technologies, take it realistically!

[Tamasine]

Thank you Ovekvam

Originally Posted by ovekvam

Yes, the standard lights are not very good, and it affects the look of the car significantly as well. You can tell from a rather long distance that it has the "wrong" lights.

[Tamasine]

Thanks for answering my questions No one....apologies for me not reading the thread properly, I'll put my glasses on now on the way to the dunce chair

Originally Posted by No one

If you take the burden of reading this thread you'll see the pre-LCI basic halogen headlights are claimed poor even compared to other car's halogen lights. The (LCI!) LEDs (discovered not too good already?) and (pre-LCI!) Xenons are different league. You either get them or forget them.



All the whining is here already, just as well.



How important it is depends on you solely: if you are a daytime only driver, not looking to show off it should be just fine. Otherwise, this thread is about the correct ways to improve in either aspect. But not nearly up to the advanced technologies, take it realistically!

[No one]

Originally Posted by Tamasine

Thanks for answering my questions No one....apologies for me not reading the thread properly, I'll put my glasses on now on the way to the dunce chair

Honestly, I did not bother to review the thread before assuming it had pretty all I'd read on the subject. I'm sorry. I can't find everything myself, but here are a couple of bonus links that might be of interest:

1. More pictures: BMW standard bulbs change to Xenon bulbs? ;
2. More discussion: Couple of Questions before adding Xenons to my M-Sport Order? .

[Tamasine]

Thanks No one - the links were very helpful especially the second one. I think it's pretty obvious that xenons or LEDs are necessities not luxuries, which I didn't realise before.

Originally Posted by No one

Honestly, I did not bother to review the thread before assuming it had pretty all I'd read on the subject. I'm sorry. I can't find everything myself, but here are a couple of bonus links that might be of interest:

1. More pictures: BMW standard bulbs change to Xenon bulbs? ;
2. More discussion: Couple of Questions before adding Xenons to my M-Sport Order? .

[snakepass101]

upgraded my halogens on my F20 116i.

DRL:

Dipped beam + sidelights:

[No one]

Originally Posted by snakepass101

upgraded my halogens on my F20 116i.

DRL:

Dipped beam + sidelights:

No sidelights upgrade pictured. Those are high beam.

[Cookie4658]

Originally Posted by logiclee

Headlights on.

The side lights are cheap ebay superwhites not genuine Mtec. Buy the genuine Mtec for a better match. Again they are a very crisp white.

A great post, Lee. Hate the lights at night, especially after driving my 3er with Xenons so just ordered these for the wife's 1 series and looking forward to comparing!