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AC Schnitzer 116i Tunning
Yesterday I test drove (for about 20') a 116i with the Schnitzer engine conversion. The car had manual transmission (so cannot compare with mine directly) and we were 3 adults in the car.
I was very impressed! It is the first time in a 116i (normal or tuned) that I feel my back pressing on the seat on 3rd and 4th gear. The car feels alot quicker and 2 important thigns are that it keeps pulling after 5.000 rpm (the normal one ''dies'' after around 4.800rpm) and has also quite alot of torque on low revs (I tried accelerating with 3rd gear and 1.500rpm and had no problem). From what I can tell it is faster than the Hartge tunning. In a couple of months a friend of mine is taking delivery of his 116i Auto and he will install immediately the AC tunning box, so I should have some more data (we will try and do the same comparison as we did with the Hartge box).
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I am interested and I would like to receive more info please. Please send me a PM. |
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What more info you want? I am posting here and not a PM, so anyone who is interested can read it. However ask me whatever you want! Price in Greece is around 2.5000 Euro, but we are exploring the possibility of a group buy and thus a lower price. Installation is about 1.5-2 hours and it is done by the dealer, i.e. BMW Spanos.
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- What is included in this price? ECU+labor? - Is it possible for a car with the standard setup (Sport Line) to withstand 64+ HP or does it need additional changes e.g. brake discs/pads, exhaust system etc? What is AC Schnitzer opinion on this (in terms of safety, not marketing)? - Will this tuning void BMW warranty? My car is only 4 months old... |
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2. I believe yes. Schnitzer will of course recommend at least a suspension upgrade (currently they are working on full suspension for the 4cyl. Models and not only springs). I think the car is ok with standard setup. 3. Warrnty is still valid (it helps in Greece that BMW Spanos sell the ugrade), but in case BMW AG refuses to cover anny warranty work due to the Schnitzer upgrade, Schnitzer will cover the cost. Each tunning BOX is registered to the car VIN and also owner.
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Do you think that it will be possible for anyone of us who lives in Athens, Greece to test drive this tuned car or are you some kind of a premium member of Spanos "club"? |
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No special member (just good customer!), you can of course test drive the car. But you have to make an appointment with the Schnitzer sales guy, as it is not always available.
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According to ACS, this tune works ONLY with 98RON...I do not know what happens if you use 95RON.
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Thanx Fanis, some people told me that with other cars if you use 95ron especially during summer time you have injection timing issues and you may damage the engine. But from the other hand i was wondering how much different that mod can be from the original 118i engine tuning? Any news from your friends' 116i auto with AC? I'd like to know how it feels with the auto box..
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As for my friends Auto 116i with the ACS tune...we will have to wait. He has not taken delivery of the car yet (by the end of the month) and then he will have to break-in the car and install the ACS tune.
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Also thank you for sharing all your experience about Hartge! |
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Is there anybody else who use ACS kit on his car?
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Well my friend has not taken the plunge yet to install the ACS conversion. He is still thinking of it, mainly due to the price. I have driven a 116i with the ACS tunning box, but it was a manual car so I cannot compare directly with my car. However, it seemed like it is faster than the Hartge one...but it is only a feeling, not hard evidence.
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Thanks Fanis! My engine conversion was installed yesterday. I didn't have a lot time to test it but my first impression is, I can feel the power now! There is big difference after Hartge box It was so satisfied me I will share a video in couple of days after I test it with my friends car
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I had a chance to try my 116 Hartge car with my friend's 316 ACS. I have to say that there is BIG difference Hartge and ACS! 316 Acs is a lot faster than mine I think that is a big shame for Hartge!
And here is the video from Turkey.. Edit: I removed to soundtrack so everyone can watch it.. Last edited by fthtpr; 12-03-2013 at 07:14 AM.. Reason: [B]Edit: I removed to soundtrack so everyone can watch the video.. |
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It's a shame though that there's such a big difference! And the F30 is heavier too! At least you got the jump on him over the first few meters.. |
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I would not say it is a shame. It is business...Hartge say 170bhp, ACS say 204bhp...both companies seem to tell the truth. This is good business for me. Also, the Hartge box is almost half the price of the ACS...so it is down to the consumer, to chose whichever one prefers.
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