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      11-02-2011, 03:56 PM   #23
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Absolutely dismal. Disproportional and FWD. It even LOOKS FWD like a Honda Fit!
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      11-02-2011, 05:00 PM   #24
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If it's going to be as much fun as a MINI, if not more, should be very interesting. The MINI is already fun to drive but if BMW keeps the steering/handling the same but tweak the suspension a bit (MINI suspension is way too stiff and hard to be in a BMW) I'm sure it will attract a crowd.
I have a Cooper S myself and I sort of agree, except that the Mini is a very small car. To my opinion FWD shows it's limitation when it comes to larger sizes. Thats why I am sceptical.
Hopefully BMW respect the heritage and continue to stand out when introducing new concepts.
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      11-02-2011, 05:12 PM   #25
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I have a Cooper S myself and I sort of agree, except that the Mini is a very small car. To my opinion FWD shows it's limitation when it comes to larger sizes. Thats why I am sceptical.
Hopefully BMW respect the heritage and continue to stand out when introducing new concepts.
I think that's what makes this car very interesting. There are so many unknowns, you don't know what to think! Whatever BMW decides to do with this car, if it stays true to BMW handling/steering/fun, I'll consider it a win.
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      11-02-2011, 06:16 PM   #26
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Absolutely dismal. Disproportional and FWD. It even LOOKS FWD like a Honda Fit!
I agree
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      11-02-2011, 09:25 PM   #27
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This has the making of a Dr. Evil plot 'Our master plan is to encroach on the Honda Fit/Mazda3 segment, we could stand to make one... meellllllllion... dollars'

mwu ha ha.....


On a side note,

What if their next plan is to give up on taking the blame for cars that look like this and have a fully custom car creator. You log in or go to the dealer, plug in to a console and pick your own car: I want the front of a Honda Fit with the sides of a 1 series and the back of a Mazda3, exterior in poo brown and the interior in Sport red...

Why is everyone laughing at me? I have a BMW badge on the front don't I?
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      11-02-2011, 09:36 PM   #28
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One word.

WHY?
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      11-02-2011, 10:34 PM   #29
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WHY?
Because they got bored and tired of making cars that always beats the competition. Why else? DUH!

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      11-03-2011, 12:04 AM   #30
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I don't like it and for the first time I think BMW is taking a really HUGE chance. Presenting RWD at the level of perfection is probably the most important feature of any BMW.

But IF they succeed and bring unknown qualities to the otherwise lame FWD concept - then I shall live in eternal respect for the BMW engineers and management

I'll give them a chance. But they better come up with a revolution.
Have you ever driven a mini?

Besides, this is indented for people who like the brand, maybe they have an X or a 5 series as a start, and needs something for the wife, or as a city car?
These potential buyers of these segment is not that hardcore RWD enthusiast, they do not take theyr cars to nurnburgring for instance.
Hell 80% of the 1 series owners thought they allready had a FWD car.
It is cheaper to manufactor, and it makes it more spaceious.
Besides, who wants to lat all theyr eggs in one basket?
Just look at Porsche, they have VAG diesel's in theyr cars these days...
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      11-03-2011, 01:08 AM   #31
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Have you ever driven a mini?

Besides, this is indented for people who like the brand, maybe they have an X or a 5 series as a start, and needs something for the wife, or as a city car?
These potential buyers of these segment is not that hardcore RWD enthusiast, they do not take theyr cars to nurnburgring for instance.
Hell 80% of the 1 series owners thought they allready had a FWD car.
It is cheaper to manufactor, and it makes it more spaceious.
Besides, who wants to lat all theyr eggs in one basket?
Just look at Porsche, they have VAG diesel's in theyr cars these days...
Agreed! I think this is a good thing for all of us. If BMW can make a ton of money by making a car that is cheap to manufacture and is sold to people who don't care about FWD or RWD, then it leaves them with plenty of R&D resources to make cars for the "hard core enthusiasts"
(And lots of money for their shareholders of course, which is a good thing too)
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Have you ever driven a mini?
Like I said some posts further down:
" I have a Cooper S myself and I sort of agree, except that the Mini is a very small car. To my opinion FWD shows it's limitation when it comes to larger sizes. Thats why I am sceptical.
Hopefully BMW respect the heritage and continue to stand out when introducing new concepts."

As long as the BMW brand is positioned above Mini, let Mini build the small quality FWD cars while BMW build the medium and large size quality RWD cars.
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Wth who wants a fwd BMW...
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