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Originally Posted by Tracus
And if you really want to see further let me tell what this "modern junkbaru" is:
It is a1982 BMW E30 under a new body design, (Specific fo these days, and as mentioned before not even original).
Bmw had back then 2865 lbs ! Junkbaru arround there
Bmw had 2.3l, 4 cyl, 192 hp, at 6750 rpm, And 176 lb-ft torque at 4750 rpm,
With 7300 limit rev limit.
Junkbaru has 2.0l, 4 cyl boxer, At 7000 rpm, 151 lb-ft, Torque at 6600 rpm.
That M3 was RWD with A LSD and Junkbaru is following in kind.
Bottom line, SOO MUCH EVOLUTION!
Wow, remember my comment withthe japanese waiting to prove reliable?
Exception is that they need it 30 YEARS to be there and even now, 30 years later with carbon fiber and all that jazz, thebmw e30 is over in numbers.
Japanese cars = too much noise for nothing and no torque.
So,Toyobaru can becompared ( very hard but let' s live it like that) with 30 years oldBmw. Thats ths single comparo that can be ever done, and even then it is still unfair forthe japanese.... 
Cdnrockies, watch your language. We might not be the same age , nor educational level. X1 is not my car, leave the assumption at home. In the meantime find out aboutthat false misleading dual exhaust in IS F.  |
Yeah, and that's an M3. And an M3 back then actually cost a lot more in terms of percentage of average annual income. That's how far we have came along. We can have a brand new 1982 M3 for 1/3rd the price of how much it would've costed 30 years ago. And better yet, lower COG, better fuel economy, and much better safety.
And what have BMW done for us lately? the lightest car is some 30% heavier than what they created 30 years ago... disgrace.