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      07-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #60
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Originally Posted by logiclee View Post
Yep there's a 7% weight difference.

In gear times where torque at the wheels rules

4th Gear M135i 40-60mph 2.4 secs, 330d 2.6 secs
4th Gear M135i 50-70mph 2.5 secs, 330d 2.9 secs
5th Gear M135i 50-70mph 3.3 secs, 330d 3.5 secs
6th Gear M135i 50-70mph 4.4 secs, 330d 4.8 secs

In Kickdown where the power is king.
40-70mph M135i 3.0 secs, 330d 4.1 secs
50-90mph M135i 5.3 secs, 330d 7.2 secs.

Staying and lugging in gear at low rpm the M135i still has the advantage, squeeze a bit further and use kickdown and the performance difference is easy to see.

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Lee
Ha... thanks for this... In a previous reply I argued that in real life (not in a race, but in daily traffic) you can't directly compare in gear accelerations since it's the speed/rpm range that dominate the experience.

With your figures I would compare the 50-70 in 6th in a M135i with the same speed range in 5th in a 330d. Why? Since the rpm range they evolve through is comparable then. Then the 330d needs 3,5 seconds versus 4,4 for the M135i.

Maybe you say this is not a fair comparison and you have a point, but on the other hand, why would "comparable rpm range" be less fair than "same gear"? I guess the latter is of NO relevance at all when you think it over. The mere fact I had to change gears 4 or 5 times to get me at 50mph is entirely irrelevant.
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