Hi all,
I was doing some searching and found this (I hope this isn't a re post). I think there is NO argument who is a better player. MJ was superior pretty much in every category. One exception might be that Kobe was a better 3 point shooter.
And the gap between them gets wider in playoffs AND even more in finals where the greatness is measured. This doesn't make Kobe a bad player, but not as good as MJ, not even close.
IMO, the major difference between them is that MJ was a much better defender and a leader. And MJ's numbers would have been better if it wasn't for his 2 year farewell with Washington
Here it is. Enjoy
http://swishnba.com/2013/06/07/kobe-...13-comparison/
MVP:
Kobe: 1 – Second in MVP voting once, third in MVP voting three times
MJ: 5 – Second in MVP voting 3 times, third in MVP voting twice
Championships:
Kobe: 5
MJ: 6
Finals MVP:
Kobe: 2
MJ: *6 – only player to win 3 straight Finals MVPs multiple times (Shaq did it from 00-02)
DPOY (Defensive Player of the Year)
Kobe: 0 – finished 3rd once
MJ: 1 – finished top 5 seven times
ROTY: (Rookie of the Year)
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1 – As a rookie MJ led his team in points, rebounds, assists and steals
Scoring Champion:
Kobe: 2 – led the league in total points scored 4 times
MJ: *10 – led the league in total points scored 11 times
Steals Champion:
Kobe: 0
MJ: 3
Scoring Title and MVP in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *5 – (88, 91, 92, 96, 98)
Scoring Title and Steals title in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *3 – (88, 90, 93)
Scoring Title and DPOY in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *1 – (88) – The year MJ won DPOY he led the league in steals (total and average) and points (total and average)
Scoring Title and Finals MVP in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *6 – only player to do this multiple times. – (91-93, 96-98)
Scoring Title, MVP and Finals MVP in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *4 – (91, 92, 96 & 98)
MVP and Finals MVP in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *4 – (91, 92, 96 & 98)
MVP, All Star MVP and Finals MVP in the same season
Kobe: 0
MJ: *2 – only person to do it multiple times
Season Totals
Games Played:
Kobe: 1239
MJ: 1072
Minutes played:
Kobe: 45,390
MJ: 41,011
Seasons over 2000 points
Kobe: 8
MJ: 11
Seasons over 2500 points
Kobe: 1
MJ: 6
Seasons over 2750 points
Kobe: 0
MJ: 3
Seasons over 3000 points
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons over 50 blocks
Kobe: 4
MJ: 8
Seasons over 75 blocks
Kobe: 0
MJ: 4
Seasons over 100 blocks
Kobe: 0
MJ: 2
Seasons over 100 steals
Kobe: 11
MJ: 12
Seasons over 150 steals
Kobe: 2
MJ: 9
Seasons over 200 steals
Kobe: 0
MJ: 6
Seasons over 250 steals
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons over 200 steals and 100 blocks
Kobe: 0
MJ: *2 – only person to do it multiple times (Pippen and Hakeem did it once each)
Seasons over 300 assists
Kobe: 13
MJ: 12
Seasons over 400 assists
Kobe: 5
MJ: 7
Seasons over 500 assists
Kobe: 0
MJ: 2
Seasons over 600 assists
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons over 400 rebounds
Kobe: 9
MJ: 12
Seasons over 450 rebounds
Kobe: 2
MJ: 7
Seasons over 500 rebounds
Kobe: 2
MJ: 6
Seasons over 550 rebounds
Kobe: 1
MJ: 2
Seasons over 600 rebounds
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons over 650 rebounds
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons over 40% shooting
Kobe: 17
MJ: 15
Seasons over 45% shooting
Kobe: 12
MJ: 12
Seasons over 46% shooting
Kobe: 7
MJ: 11
Seasons over 47% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 10
Seasons over 48% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 10
Seasons over 49% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 8
Seasons over 50% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 6
Seasons over 51% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 6
Seasons over 52% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 4
Seasons over 53% shooting
Kobe: 0
MJ: 3
Seasons under 25% from 3
Kobe: 0
MJ: 6
Seasons shooting over 25% from 3
Kobe: 17
MJ: 9
Seasons shooting over 30% from 3
Kobe: 15
MJ: 6
Seasons shooting over 31% from 3
Kobe: 13
MJ: 6
Seasons shooting over 32% from 3
Kobe: 12
MJ: 5
Seasons shooting over 33% from 3
Kobe: 8
MJ: 5
Seasons shooting over 34% from 3
Kobe: 7
MJ: 5
Seasons shooting over 35% from 3
Kobe: 4
MJ: 5
Seasons shooting over 36% from 3
Kobe: 3
MJ: 5
Seasons shooting over 37% from 3
Kobe: 2
MJ: 4
Seasons shooting over 38% from 3
Kobe: 1
MJ: 2
Seasons shooting over 40% from 3
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Seasons shooting over 50% from 3
Kobe: 0
MJ: 1
Regular Season (per game):
Points per game:
Kobe: 25.5
MJ: *30.1
Rebounds per game:
Kobe: 5.3
MJ: 6.2
Assists per game:
Kobe: 4.8
MJ: 5.3
Steals per game:
Kobe: 1.5
MJ: 2.3
Blocks per game:
Kobe: 0.5
MJ: 0.8
FG%
Kobe: .454
MJ: .497
FT%
Kobe: .838
MJ: .835
3PT%
Kobe: .336
MJ: .327
Turnovers per game:
Kobe: 3.0
MJ: 2.7
Clutch:
Kobe: 46 for 155 (29.7%)
MJ: *33 for 58 (56.9%)
Regular Season (advanced metrics):
PER: (Player Efficiency Rating – A measure of per minute production)
Kobe: 23.4 (19th all time) – Finished third once, fifth four times and sixth twice
MJ: *27.9 (1st all time) – Finished first seven times, second three times and fourth once
WS/48 (Win Shares per 48 minutes) – An estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player per 48 mins – league average is approximately .100)
Kobe: .183 (29th all time) – Finished fourth once, seventh once and 8th in the league four times
MJ: *.250 (1st all time) – Finished first eight times, second once and third twice.
Win Shares (Total all time) – An estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player
Kobe: 173.33 (14th) – Finished fourth in the league three times and fifth once
MJ: 214.02 (4th) – Finished first in the league nine times and second twice
Offensive Win Shares (Total all time) – An estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player due to his offence
Kobe: 123.84 (9th) – Finished second in the league once and third in the league once
MJ: 149.88 (4th) – Finished first eight times and second three times.
Defensive Win Shares (Total all time) – An estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player due to his defence
Kobe: 49.5 (46th) – Finished tenth in the league once.
MJ: 64.1 (21st) 0 Finished second once, third once, fourth once and fifth three times.
Post Season (per game):
Points per game:
Kobe: 25.6
MJ: *33.4
Rebounds per game:
Kobe: 5.1
MJ: 6.4
Assists per game:
Kobe: 4.7
MJ: 5.7
Steals per game:
Kobe: 1.4
MJ: 2.1
Blocks per game:
Kobe: 0.7
MJ: 0.9
FG%
Kobe: .448%
MJ: .487%
FT%
Kobe: .816
MJ: .828
3PT%
Kobe: .331
MJ: .332
Turnovers per game:
Kobe: 2.9
MJ: 3.1
Clutch:
Kobe: 7 for 28 (25%)
MJ: *9 for 18 (50%)
Post Season (advanced metrics):
PER: (Player Efficiency Rating)
Kobe: 22.40 (22nd)
MJ: *28.60
WS/48 (Win Shares per 48 minutes)
Kobe: .1570 (46th)
MJ: *.2553
Win Shares (Total all time)
Kobe: 28.26 (8th)
MJ: *39.76
Offensive Win Shares (Total all time)
Kobe: 20.97 (5th)
MJ: *27.32
Leaders (Reg Season): (How many times has each player led the league in…)
PER:
Kobe: 0
MJ: 7
Offensive Win Shares
Kobe: 0
MJ: 8
Win Shares:
Kobe: 0
MJ: 9
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
Kobe: 0
MJ: 8
Leaders (Post Season) : (How many times has each player led the league in…)
PER:
Kobe: 0
MJ: 6
Offensive Win Shares
Kobe: 0
MJ: 7
Win Shares:
Kobe: 1
MJ: 9
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
Kobe: 0
MJ: 8
NBA Finals Averages
Kobe – 37 games: 25.3ppg, 5.7rpg, 5.05apg, 1.76spg, 0.9bpg, 41.2% FG, 31.3%3pt, 84.7% FT
MJ – 35 games: 33.6ppg, 6.02rpg, 5.97apg, 1.77spg, 0.65bpg, 48.1% FG, 36.8%3pt, 80.6% FT
Kobe’s NBA Finals Performances
2000 NBA Finals – 15.6ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.2apg, 1.0spg, 1.4bpg, 36.7% FG, 20.0% 3pt FG, 90.9% FT% – W (win)
2001 NBA Finals – 24.6ppg, 7.8rpg, 5.8apg, 1.4spg, 1.4bpg, 41.5% FG, 33.3% FT% - W
2002 NBA Finals – 26.8ppg, 5.8rpg, 5.3apg, 1.5spg, 0.8bpg, 51.4% FG, 54.5% 3PT, 80.6% FT – W
2004 NBA Finals – 22.6ppg, 2.8rpg, 4.4apg, 1.8spg, 0.6bpg, 38.1% FG, 17.4% 3PT, 92.0% FT – L
2008 NBA Finals – 25.7ppg, 4.7rpg, 5.0apg, 2.7spg, 0.2bpg, 40.5% FG, 32.1% 3PT, 79.6% FT – L
2009 NBA Finals – 32.4ppg, 5.6rpg, 7.4apg, 1.4spg, 1.4bpg, 43.0% FG, 36.0 3PT%, 84.1% FT – W - Finals MVP
2010 NBA Finals – 28.6ppg, 8.0rpg, 3.9apg, 2.1spg, 0.7bpg, 40.5% FG, 31.9 3PT%, 88.3% FT – W – Finals MVP
Michael Jordan’s NBA Finals Performances
1991 NBA Final: 31.2ppg, 6.6rpg, 11.4apg, 2,8spg, 1.4bpg, 55% FG, 50% 3PT, 84.8% FT – W – Finals MVP
1992 NBA final: 35.8ppg, 4.8rpg, 6.5apg, 1.7spg, 0.3bpg, 52.6% FG, 42.9 3PT%, 89.1% FT – W – Finals MVP
1993 NBA final: 41.0ppg (NBA Finals record), 8.5rpg, 6.3apg, 1.7spg, 0.7bpg, 50.8% FG, 40.0% 3PT, 69.4% FT – W – Finals MVP
1996 NBA Final: 27.3ppg, 5.3rpg, 4.2apg, 1.7spg, 0.2bpg, 41% FG, 31.6% 3PT, 83.6% FT – W – Finals MVP
1997 NBA Final: 32.3ppg, 7.0rpg, 6.0apg, 1.2spg, 0.8bpg, 45.6%FG, 32.0% 3PT, 76.4% FT – W – Finals MVP
1998 NBA Final: 33.5ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.3apg, 1.8spg, 0.7bpg, 42.7% FG, 30.8 3PT%, 81.4% FT – W - Finals MVP